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Discuss the Austin Healey Sprite and the MG Midget. Two different but similar cars sometimes referred to collectively as the Spridget.

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    When is the best time to install an antisway bar?

    I am just now starting to put together the front suspension in my Bugeye. The engine, transmission, and radiator are not back in yet. It never had an antisway bar before, and I have no idea how to install it. I just have few questions for now. When is the best time to install this? I bougth a used stock sway bar on Ebay a while back. Are there specific measurements that the antisway bar plates bolt to the wishpans? I really need to keep moving on putting this thing all back together, and I am hoping it is no big deal to add it later, preferably before I put the engine and transmission in. Any thoughts?
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    Re: When is the best time to install an antisway bar?

    Kevin:

    You can do it later, actually you are better off with the chassis loaded. I am assuming that it is a stock later bar. I would just make sure your arms have the three wholes in them and one is left and right.

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    Re: When is the best time to install an antisway bar?

    Kevin, do your A-arms have the holes in them now?
    If not, I have a template I can email to you as a pdf should you wish.

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    Re: When is the best time to install an antisway bar?

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    Re: When is the best time to install an antisway bar?

    preferably while the car is stopped.
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    Re: When is the best time to install an antisway bar?

    Thank you JP an' Mark! I thought this thread wuz gonna be all too seer-ious an' stuff.
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    Re: When is the best time to install an antisway bar?

    Install your bar when the wolfsbane blooms and the autumn moon is bright.
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    Re: When is the best time to install an antisway bar?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrEntropy
    Thank you JP an' Mark! I thought this thread wuz gonna be all too seer-ious an' stuff.
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    Re: When is the best time to install an antisway bar?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dug
    Kevin, do your A-arms have the holes in them now?
    If not, I have a template I can email to you as a pdf should you wish.

    Dug
    I would also like that template. I sent you a PM with my email address.

    I have a question about mounting the sway-bar at the frame rails. What have people done to mount them on cars that did not originally have one installed?

    Brian

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    Re: When is the best time to install an antisway bar?

    Quote Originally Posted by GeeBee1
    Kevin:

    You can do it later, actually you are better off with the chassis loaded. I am assuming that it is a stock later bar. I would just make sure your arms have the three wholes in them and one is left and right.

    Pat
    Well, one of my arms IS a left and one's a right, but NEITHER have 3 (w)holes in them....BUT each has 4 fingers and a thumb and appear to be be OEM...guess I'll just have to live with them.....
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    Re: When is the best time to install an antisway bar?

    good material I'll have to pass on again due to respect for the board ....

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    Re: When is the best time to install an antisway bar?

    gotta luv the straight man

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    Re: When is the best time to install an antisway bar?


    Brian, I have two Bugeyes that did not appear to have antisway bars originally, but both have four tapped holes for the mounting brackets. Have you looked underneath the rails to see if there are already holes for the mounting brackets?
    Kevin

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    Re: When is the best time to install an antisway bar?

    Thanks Kevin. I've looked and there are no holes. Maybe there is enough meat there to drill and tap. I was hoping someone who has done would chime in.

    It must be raining in more places than just Houston since this place is looking a little like the Spridget mailing list.

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    Re: When is the best time to install an antisway bar?

    Let me know if you need to know measurements on where the holes are drilled or if you need a picture of this area. Hopefully someone will contribute that has done this before.
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    Re: When is the best time to install an antisway bar?

    While I don't know this to be true, others (notably Tony) would have chimed in right now and said you can't drill the A-arms for a sway bar as it would weaken them. According to him (and others) you either bought them with the holes drilled or didn't put on a sway bar but that they were either hardened or reinforced.

    Once again I don't know this to be true - just sayin' is all.
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    Re: When is the best time to install an antisway bar?

    The later pans WERE reinforced for the swaybars. I for one am hesitant to install a sway bar on non-reinforced pans but that is just me.
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    Re: When is the best time to install an antisway bar?

    I have seen the wishbone pans that were reinforced. The thickness of the reinforcements looks no thicker than a washer or two if I remember correctly. Why couldn't one just put one of two grade eight washer behind each bolt? I think Apple Hydraulics sells wishbones with the reinforcements. I wish I would have considered this when I had my wishbones rebuilt a few years ago.
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    Re: When is the best time to install an antisway bar?

    I'm with BillM. The spring pans for the bar do have a re-enforced attachment point for the bar uprights. Tapered. It would be best to get the 'proper' ones if ya decide to do this, Kev. I would think the washers could allow the loads and stresses to cause them to shift and eventually crack the pan itself. Not worth the risk, IMO.
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