• The Roadster Factory Recovery Fund - Friends, as you may have heard, The Roadster Factory, a respected British Car Parts business in PA, suffered a total loss in a fire on Christmas Day. Read about it, discuss or ask questions >> HERE. The Triumph Register of America is sponsoring a fund raiser to help TRF get back on their feet. If you can help, vist >> their GoFundMe page.
  • Hey there Guest!
    If you enjoy BCF and find our forum a useful resource, if you appreciate not having ads pop up all over the place and you want to ensure we can stay online - Please consider supporting with an "optional" low-cost annual subscription.
    **Upgrade Now**
    (PS: Subscribers don't see this UGLY banner)
Tips
Tips

TR6 TR6 rear panel: always black?

Share this page

jjbunn

jjbunn

Jedi Knight
Offline
Were all TR6 rear panels painted black - a book I have on Triumph cars says so? If a TR6 has a rear panel the same colour as the rest of the car, does that imply the car has been repainted at some point?

Thanks!
 
G

Guest

Guest
Guest
Offline
Generally, this does mean that the car was resprayed. Not, that said, on rare occasion it has been reported that a few TR6s came from the factory without the black Kamm back. If the car you are looking at has the original paint, this could well be one of them. You should be able to look closely to tell if a car has been sprayed. Look in the trunk, under the dash, under the carpet, inside the doors, etc. If all these areas are well sprayed with a new paint job, you have a rare car indeed, one that was painted properly. That would be a sign of a body-off-frame resto.
 
Brosky

Brosky

Great Pumpkin
Offline
It was originally designed with black to make the car appear to be wider. Look from the rear at a non black versus a black parked side by side and you'll see the illusion.
 
G

Guest

Guest
Guest
Offline
Brosky said:
It was originally designed with black to make the car appear to be wider. Look from the rear at a non black versus a black parked side by side and you'll see the illusion.
Click to expand...

I thought horizontal stripes did that. At least that's what my wife says. Makes her look fat.
 
Brosky

Brosky

Great Pumpkin
Offline
Why do you think that I never wear striped shirts? I'm big enough as it is!!
 
swift6

swift6

Yoda
Offline
I had read at some point that some of the very early (First month or so) production TR6's for 1969 did not recieve the black Kamm back.

Black windscreen surrounds started with the 1970 model year and black lower rockers were hit and miss. With many cars used for advertising having been pulled early before the rockers could be painted black. The rocker info seems to be supported on many versions so it is pretty hard to say.

But generally, for a rule of thumb, I would say that if the rear valance is body color it has been repainted.
 
toysrrus

toysrrus

Yoda
Offline
Hi Folks;

First; I believe the Black panel looks Great:

Secondly; I also believe that it was Factory Painted Blk. up to `72 or perhaps `73: Beyond that I`m not certain & In the "Orig. TR4/5/6" book; It does`nt say anything! /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif

So; From `69 thru `73; For Sure; If you have one or are looking for a TR6 and Its not Blk; "ITS BEEN REPAINTED"!!

Regards, Russ /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/banana.gif
 
tomshobby

tomshobby

Yoda
Offline
Until this weekend the only TR6 I had ever seen in person was mine. Consequently my opinion was based on the faded and worn black on mine and I do not like it. Yesterday I was parked with dozens of other TR6's and had a chance to see some with the black and some with out, and most of them with better paint than my old original paint. While I still lean towards body color in back and the windshield frame I did find the cars with a fresher looking black looked much better than mine. The result is that I have much less conviction now than before.
 
2wrench

2wrench

Luke Skywalker
Country flag
Offline
My car is an early '74 and I believe the paint was
original. It has the Kamm black and th lower rockers
are black as well. If somebody repainted this car,
they've done an excellant job at hiding it.
 
P

Paul Johnson

Jedi Warrior
Offline
At the BL port of entry in New Orleans during the TR6 ayears we never saw one that was not painted black in the back and rocker.
 
G

Guest

Guest
Guest
Offline
I think perhaps some people may be confusing the TR6 and TR7. The TR7 started out with a black rear panel up to 1977. 1978 and up models were painted the same color as the car.

1969 TR6 factory brochure picture. Black rear end.
1969TR6.jpg
 
TR6oldtimer

TR6oldtimer

Darth Vader
Offline
Brosky said:
It was originally designed with black to make the car appear to be wider. Look from the rear at a non black versus a black parked side by side and you'll see the illusion.
Click to expand...

Hmmm, I always speculated the rear of the car was painted flat black to mask road dirt and engine exhaust particulates (aka oil). /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif
 
kodanja

kodanja

Obi Wan
Country flag
Offline
When my car was repainted, I looked at the rear end painted and opted to keep it green.
I thought it looked good.

DSC05918.jpg
 
Brosky

Brosky

Great Pumpkin
Offline
Once again, purely a matter of taste. All TR6's look great, whether painted black in the rear or not.

Beside, given enough time and lack of soap and water, the oil leaks will eventually make is black.
 
TR3driver

TR3driver

Great Pumpkin - R.I.P
Offline
jjbunn said:
Were all TR6 rear panels painted black
Click to expand...
Given all the other mistakes made at one time or another by factory workers, I feel confident there was at least one TR6 that escaped without the blackout treatment.

John Macartney, who worked as a Triumph salesman for many years, once told me of a car where the factory had put steel wheels on one side, wire wheels on the other, and one of each in the boot !

And I'd bet money that wasn't shown on it's BMIHT certificate /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

BTW, if you ever get a chance to read John's book "In the Shadow of my Father : Life at Triumph", I heartily recommend it. Doesn't have any deep dark secrets about the cars, but is thoroughly entertaining and, I think, reveals a lot about the attitudes prevalent at Standard-Triumph.
This is an outrageous price to pay for it, just the only site I found that has details :
https://www.biblio.com/details.php?dcx=49824350&aid=frg
 
G

Guest

Guest
Guest
Offline
TR3driver said:
jjbunn said:
Were all TR6 rear panels painted black
Click to expand...
Given all the other mistakes made at one time or another by factory workers, I feel confident there was at least one TR6 that escaped without the blackout treatment.

John Macartney, who worked as a Triumph salesman for many years, once told me of a car where the factory had put steel wheels on one side, wire wheels on the other, and one of each in the boot !
Click to expand...

Wow, what a great story. Is he still around? Could you get him to join this forum and tell more of what he has seen? I'll bet he's got some unbelievable stuff to tell having sold British cars.
 
roofman

roofman

Jedi Knight
Offline
Semi-gloss or satin sheen.
 
Similar threads
Thread starter Title Forum Replies Date
glemon TR5/TR250 Answering My Own Question Rear Tube Shock Conversion Numbers TR4a-TR6 Triumph 0
S TR6 1974 TR6 Rear Brakes w/o hydr. press. Triumph 6
R For Sale TR6 REAR AXLE HUBS Triumph Classifieds 0
R For Sale TR6 REAR DIFFERENTIAL Triumph Classifieds 3
edkap2002 TR6 TR6 rear pinion seal Triumph 3
C TR4/4A Advice for grafting TR6 frame front to TR4A frame rear Triumph 15
mctriumph For sale rear wings Tr6 Triumph Classifieds 3
mctriumph Have a pair of tr6 rear wings Triumph Classifieds 0
EWD TR6 74 TR6 - Rear and windshield frame color Triumph 2
EWD TR6 Rear Transmission Seal 74 TR6 Triumph 4
Got_All_4 TR6 drill and tap for a grease fitting tr6 rear hub assembly Triumph 4
J TR6 1973 TR6 Rear Brake Operation Questions Triumph 4
T TR6 TR6 Rear Bumper Bar Triumph 1
Got_All_4 TR6 Rear Bumper removal 1970 TR6 Triumph 3
T Wanted TR6 rear trailing arms Triumph Classifieds 1
M TR6 TR6 rear bumper Triumph 0
cmacmillan TR6 Rear bumper removal - TR6 Triumph 10
GBRandy TR6 1973 TR6 Rear Frame / Body Bushings Triumph 3
T TR4/4A Under the been there - done that school of learning: TR6 rear springs on a TR4a Triumph 12
T TR6 TR6 aftermarket rear shocks Triumph 35
W TR6 tr6 rear hubs Triumph 3
F TR6 TR6 HARDTOP GLASS [rear] Triumph 7
D TR6 76 TR6 Rear Brake Installation Triumph 17
hondo402000 TR6 New rear wheel cylinder leaking, TR6 Triumph 0
D TR6 76 TR6 Rear Right Brake Line Triumph 8
J TR6 rebuilding tr6 rear hubs Triumph 13
T TR6 Passenger side TR6 rear clunk? Triumph 9
W TR6 broken bleeder on rear brakes tr6 Triumph 12
S TR6 tr6 rear shock part number ??? Triumph 5
Coyote1 TR6 TR6 Rear Springs ? Triumph 11
Pete_Chadwell TR6 TR6 Rear Hub question, plus gearbox vibe Triumph 8
O TR6 TR6 Rear Valance ID Triumph 1
TR6oldtimer TR6 TR6 windscreen and rear flat black Triumph 4
SherpaPilot TR6 TR6 Rear Axle Bearing Question Triumph 10
B TR6 TR6 rear axle oil change Triumph 21
T TR6 Anyone use TR6 rear springs in their TR4a IRS? Triumph 8
glemon TR6 TR250 TR6 Rear Springs Triumph 13
S TR6 Rear suspension TR6 Triumph 8
hondo402000 TR6 NEEDED rear light socket TR6 for reverse lamp Triumph 10
hondo402000 TR6 TR6 Rear Paint, Satin Black Triumph 8
hondo402000 TR6 TR6 rear body Black paint help Triumph 9
B TR6 Rear-ended today and my beautiful TR6 is smashed.. Triumph 18
T TR6 TR6 rear sway bar question Triumph 6
I TR6 TR6 rear hub and trailing arm spares advice Triumph 2
T TR6 Is this a TR6 rear sway bar? Triumph 10
B TR6 Removal and Replacement of TR6 rear deck Triumph 3
T TR6 tr6 rear noise Triumph 8
I TR6 Rear brake drum temperature TR6 Triumph 13
I TR6 Rear wheel bearing help TR6 Triumph 6
I TR6 TR6 rear axle u-joint removal help Triumph 14

Similar threads

Top