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    Cobra Daytona Coupe

    Cobra Daytona Coupes are "sort of British" so I'll put this here.
    The Daytona chassis' were all built in the UK. The first prototype had a body built in California and the other five bodies were built in Italy.
    The first car had a lower roof (it fit the shorter Ken Miles to a tee). The others had a taller roof profile that fit Dan Gurney better.

    Within the last few years, one of the six real, Cobra Daytona Coupes was found in a storage locker. It had been locked in there for many years. There was some question about the ownership of it, but that has been resolved.
    A rich buyer bought the car for $4 million and has vowed to "clean it up, but keep it as is" rather than fully restore it.
    It apparently has an interesting history.

    As Found







    After the new owner cleaned it up

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    Re: Cobra Daytona Coupe

    Doesn't look cleaned up. It looks repainted. Pity.

    I hope I'm wrong of course.

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    Re: Cobra Daytona Coupe

    $4 million, that's alot of pints! [img]/bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/thirsty.gif[/img]
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    Re: Cobra Daytona Coupe

    Hi There aeronca;

    Was It yourself that bought this "Barn Find" for $4Mil?? I did`nt See It @ your place of Bus. when I was over with Jim V.

    Whats going on with the MGA these days?

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    Re: Cobra Daytona Coupe

    Sorry to be negative, but I would not give $4 for that bucket of s&*t!
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    Re: Cobra Daytona Coupe

    Dave: That's almost exactly what Pete Brock said.

    Steve: From what I've read, they spend quite a bit of time (and $) "bringing back" the old paint and did not re-paint it.

    Russ: I wish! I'm a humble teacher.....don't got no $4 million handy. By the way, that business you were at with Jim V. is owned by Jim's friend, Pete McCarthy. Pete still has the MGA basket case for sale, I think. he wanted $2500.

    I have a friend who is building a Daytona Coupe replica but he has become ill and has been stalled on the project for some time. I've mentioned how much I like it. I would prefer *he* gets to finish it and enjoy it, but if becomes available, he knows that I'm interested.

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    Re: Cobra Daytona Coupe

    The persom who bought the Ex Phil Spector Daytona has an unbelievable collection of vintage race cars,

    And is a real nice guy [img]/bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

    I often wonder why people get weird that a car sold for X million,

    I like car guys spending money, it keeps it the hobby going,
    keeps money flowing around the car game,

    keeps us all hoping for a barn find,

    Better he spends it on car junk then collecting stamps !

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    Re: Cobra Daytona Coupe

    I know of a replica in my area that is for sale. The car has been in many magazines.
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    Re: Cobra Daytona Coupe

    There is also a lot of prestige in Cobra circles of owning the 'missing' Daytona. The last of the six cars. A ton of history with it.
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    Re: Cobra Daytona Coupe

    The irony is that Shelby abandoned the Daytonas in France following their competition at LeMans. At the time, they were just used race cars that had been run hard and put away wet, and he couldn't justify spending the money to bring them to the US.

    Peter Brock is on record as saying that the original Daytonas weren't something you'd want for a daily driver, because they were built in a hurry and with one objective: to win races.
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    Re: Cobra Daytona Coupe

    Hello Aeronca,

    I'm not sure what the difference between the 'Daytona' and the AC Cobra coupes that were raced at Le Mans. However, the latter are reputed to be why we had a 70mph speed limit put on our roads (1964 ish?) as AC used to test the Le Mans cars on our M1 motorway. (As did Aston Martin's test driver doing routine production car testing, his best average on a public road, in the order of 140mph) Our newspapers had a field day when they found this out.

    We still have that pedestrian speed limit to this day.

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    Re: Cobra Daytona Coupe

    Alec, they are the same car. Daytona is the nickname for the cars, I believe that was the first race they made it to and received the Daytona label at that time. Pete Brock designed the car for better top speed as the roadsters had the aerodynamics of a brick, regardless of the 400plus horsepower, and the Ferrari's were just walking away on the top speed sections of race tracks.

    Jack Sears is supposed to be the culprit. I heard him speak recently and was talking about the high speed runs on the Motorways. He said they used to go at at the break of dawn because of lack of traffic and least amount of wind (cross/head or tail). He said the police knew about it and would help block traffic if needed. Then the press found out and blew it all out of proportion and got the government involved, ended the high speed runs and established the speed limit.
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    Re: Cobra Daytona Coupe

    I think if Peter Brock had a garage full of daytonas he would be saying what a great car they were !

    No Cobra is a great daily driver, its not what they were made for ,

    Not that I would mind having one in my driveway !

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    Re: Cobra Daytona Coupe

    Actually the cobra 289s and 260s are pretty nice for daily use. It's when they went to the 427 they lost the plot. would have been better going to the 351 windsor (small block) but, well, size sell I guess.
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    Re: Cobra Daytona Coupe

    Quote Originally Posted by beaulieu
    I think if Peter Brock had a garage full of daytonas he would be saying what a great car they were !
    Well, he was given the chance to "re-design" the Coupe with the 'Superformance Coupe', and designed a little more 'livability' into it.

    As stated earlier, the original coupes were pure race cars. the only consideration was winning, not comfort. Roadsters didn't have much in the way of comfort either, but that was to be expected of roadsters.
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    Re: Cobra Daytona Coupe

    Having worked at a Superformance dealer, I'll vouch for the arodynamics of the Cobra roadster. At about 110 they start getting light in the steering. That classic big gaping maw just sucks in the air and blows it out under the car. A chin spoiler helps a lot.
    My Boss has a Superformance MKIII (427 cobra replica) running a Ford Motorsports 351 through a tremec 5 speed. He uses it almost daily.(has the hardtop for the winter) It's actually pretty tame if you try. but it's hard to be good knowing all thats on tap at any given moment.
    I've driven replicas with everything from 302s to original 427 side oilers, to 514 motorsports engines putting out over 600 HP. My favorite was one we built as a pace car for Watkins Glen. it ran a 392 (bored/stroked 351) that was a well balanced car.
    The 427 was hairy, and the 514s were insane. those ones scared me.
    Personally I'd rather have the Superformance Daytona coupe instead of an original for all the above stated reasons. the Daytonas are not an easy car to get in and out of, even the replicas, but at least you can get the replica hot box with AC. Stupid on a roadster. almost necessary on the coupe.
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    Re: Cobra Daytona Coupe

    I have Peter Brocks sweat in my helmet, should I sell it on ebay? [img]/bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]

    I loaned it to him for this photo



    The Superformance Cobra Coupe is pretty cool

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    Re: Cobra Daytona Coupe

    MoPho

    What are the other cars in the picture? What was the purpose of the photo?

    Thanks
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    Re: Cobra Daytona Coupe

    Quote Originally Posted by smcmanus
    MoPho

    What are the other cars in the picture? What was the purpose of the photo?

    Thanks
    Steve
    It was taken for an article in Car and Driver (March 07), they used this shot instead though



    The cars are:
    Lotus Exige S (supercharged)
    Ariel Atom
    Superformance Cobra Coupe
    Corvette Z06
    Noble M400
    Porsche 911 GT3

    This was on the cover of the issue




    Here is the Article
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    Re: Cobra Daytona Coupe

    Nice shots!I really like the one of the
    crossed-up Datona Coupe.

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