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On Friday we received the last piece of the Camry's exhaust system to allow me to change out the cat converters. The "Money Light" has been on for too long. Changed out the sensors a while back but the code returned and the light came back on. This is the four-banger, exhaust manifold has the first converter as part of it. Collector has the second one attached with a flex-pipe and a two-bolt flange at each end. Looked like a simple one or two hour task... HA!

There are three pieces of heat shield attached to the manifold/converter, brackets on the cat with threaded tabs to attach the shields. NONE of the six tabs on the new manifold lined up with the holes in the sheet-metal. Brackets at the base had a slightly different angle than the original, four 10MM x 1.50 bolts holding the base to the block via 90° brackets. Much fettling with hammer, die grinder, profane utterances, before it could be mounted satisfactorily. Then it was fighting rusted fasteners on the old parts to remove studs and bolts to reattach the new center piece to the collector. All the threaded fasteners I've got around here and not ONE 10MM x 1.50 stud suitable for the task. Weasel Pee and a ½" air impact got one stud from the old manifold collector, it seemed to have been cross-threaded on install. Ran a die over that, removed the other with a sprag socket and wound both in the new collector. In all it took the better part of seven hours to get it all aligned and back together. So far no Check Engine light, no trouble codes.

Gonna have to learn some Japanese profanities, I guess. :highly_amused:
 

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7 hours really! You did good. And I bet you didn't even have a lift.
 
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2-ton floor jack and jackstands. Thrashin' around on a large piece of cardboard as a "lyin' down board"... Only up-side to this is it's a Florida car, so at least I had a fightin' chance with the rusty fasteners underneath. Spent enuff years in western PA to know better than to get a car from "up north"! :wink:
 

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As a long time Toyota dealer tech, I am surprised to hear you had this much trouble.

We always replace all the studs and nuts on the manifold/cat as they cost less than the labor required to remove the old ones. My dealership has always stocked them.

Heat shields should have fit unless you were sold the wrong cat---there are 4 different cats listed for 2002.

I believe there was a change at the pipe flange on cat---if so, there may be an updated bracket.

If you want, I can research this for you as I have access to our electronic parts catalog here at home. Just PM me the VIN( or photo of door jamb VIN tag) and the part number of the cat you received. A photo of under hood label, if present would also help.
 

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Thank heaven for Pub friends!

Tom M.


As a long time Toyota dealer tech, I am surprised to hear you had this much trouble.

We always replace all the studs and nuts on the manifold/cat as they cost less than the labor required to remove the old ones. My dealership has always stocked them.

Heat shields should have fit unless you were sold the wrong cat---there are 4 different cats listed for 2002.

I believe there was a change at the pipe flange on cat---if so, there may be an updated bracket.

If you want, I can research this for you as I have access to our electronic parts catalog here at home. Just PM me the VIN( or photo of door jamb VIN tag) and the part number of the cat you received. A photo of under hood label, if present would also help.
 

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Glad it's done for the next 18 yrs. Good thing it was never driven on the beach.
 
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As a long time Toyota dealer tech, I am surprised to hear you had this much trouble.

We always replace all the studs and nuts on the manifold/cat as they cost less than the labor required to remove the old ones. My dealership has always stocked them.

Heat shields should have fit unless you were sold the wrong cat---there are 4 different cats listed for 2002.

I believe there was a change at the pipe flange on cat---if so, there may be an updated bracket.

If you want, I can research this for you as I have access to our electronic parts catalog here at home. Just PM me the VIN( or photo of door jamb VIN tag) and the part number of the cat you received. A photo of under hood label, if present would also help.

Thanks for the generous offer, Craig! But as Larry notes, it's done now and I'm seriously disinclined to mess with it again. Pleased to learn you've experience with these things, I may have different issues in future, and if I may, would ask your advice.

My background is primarily with Euro-trash: Former Porsche/Audi dealership tech, owned Brit (MGB and Lotus) and Italian (Alfa GT's) since the late '60's. This Camry is the first non-European in my charge. Sort of an O.J.T. deal. Even broke down and got a rudimentary OBD-II scan tool... old-school stethoscope and test light don't cut it. :wink:
 
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