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    TR3 Temperature gauge

    Hello,
    Iím restoring a Tr3 for my mother in law. Iím looking for a temperature gauge. Seems these are hard to find. Thought I would reach out for any ideas to help me find one.

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    Re: TR3 Temperature gauge

    If you have an old broken one, it can be fixed, and usually the repairs are like new. I do not know the professionals who that now, but someone should. Plus there is a clone on evilbay

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    Re: TR3 Temperature gauge

    In case others have the same question, I think Dan got some great answers on the other forum. The repro from Rimmers seems like a winner to me.
    https://www.triumphexp.com/forum/tr2...gauge.1679373/
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    Re: TR3 Temperature gauge

    For what it's worth, I got 2 quotes, one from Nisonger, $171 (2 years ago), and one from West Valley Instruments which was a few dollars more. I went with Nisonger and the final bill came in at about $140 including shipping. I cannot account for the price drop but it would seem that they don't have a standard fee. It did come back as new.

    I was not aware of Rimmer's reproduction at the time but probably would have gone that route based on the above quotes.

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    Re: TR3 Temperature gauge

    There is a guy that does reproduction gauges. He advertises on E bay. They look very good. Hard to tell they are not original except they are very clean.
    I will see if I have a close up and find his name.

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    Re: TR3 Temperature gauge

    The thread Randall mentions, I show the ebay clone (currently in the car) and the Rimmer gauge that I just purchased. I go through all of the minor differences in the Rimmer gauge and the original that I have. For the price (about $120 plus shipping, three options), it is very close to original.



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    Re: TR3 Temperature gauge

    I've been on the prowl for 7 years for a good faced original or an NOS. In fact it's the only part I am still looking for after completing the resto 3 years ago. I'm afraid I'll be racing you for the next one that pops up!
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    Re: TR3 Temperature gauge

    Quote Originally Posted by CJD View Post
    I've been on the prowl for 7 years for a good faced original or an NOS. In fact it's the only part I am still looking for after completing the resto 3 years ago. I'm afraid I'll be racing you for the next one that pops up!
    Just curious, did you see the link I posted to a NOS gauge for sale?
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    Re: TR3 Temperature gauge

    Quote Originally Posted by TR3driver View Post
    Just curious, did you see the link I posted to a NOS gauge for sale?
    I had missed that...but all over it now! Sorry Dan. I go this one, but it was on the very high side for price (I'm still sitting down after forking out the bucks). I hope the next one that comes along is lower...and I am no longer competing with you.

    Thanks, Randall!
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    Re: TR3 Temperature gauge

    Good to hear it went to a car that can make good use of it. Something like that does not come up very often.

    Looking at my E bay reproduction I do see the needle is mount is different to the other gauges. May break down and get one from Rimmer to look more correct.

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    Re: TR3 Temperature gauge

    I am not trying to rock the boat here, but the original temp gauges I have had all had iron or metal nuts that holds in the bulb, not brass. The NOS ones shown could be like factory later stuff I do not know. The first one that John bought could be steel; it is hard to tell from the pic.

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    Re: TR3 Temperature gauge

    Quote Originally Posted by CJD View Post
    ...I go this one, but it was on the very high side for price (I'm still sitting down after forking out the bucks)...
    Possibly an eye-watering price but I think that is the market now.

    I bought a nice one (but not as nice as yours) a few years ago that was poorly listed on eBay (didn't show up in the usual TR search) for 10 bucks then tested it, took better photos and relisted it. Sold for over $300 to a fellow in Italy who nearly doubled his money when he sold it on the European eBay site.

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    Re: TR3 Temperature gauge

    Quote Originally Posted by sp53 View Post
    I am not trying to rock the boat here, but the original temp gauges I have had all had iron or metal nuts that holds in the bulb, not brass...
    John's looks like steel to me, possibly cad plated. The other one is presented as 'New Smiths Industries Limited' so possibly new, not NOS. But even that one looks to me to have a steel nut with some yellowish finish on it.

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    Re: TR3 Temperature gauge

    Quote Originally Posted by Geo Hahn View Post
    But even that one looks to me to have a steel nut with some yellowish finish on it.
    I agree. If you look closely, you can see places where the yellowish coating is damaged and the whitish steel is showing through.
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    Re: TR3 Temperature gauge

    Seems like the minutest of minutia but I suppose at these prices you would expect the item to be perfect. It would also be good to know what perfect is. I think it is reasonable to assume that the bulb nuts were plated when originally installed. The evidence I have of that is the original nut on my car has not all rusted away and the gauge still works. It is most definitely ferrous. If I'm not mistaken,the plating could have been zinc or cadmium or maybe something else, both of which could have some color other that silver. I also have a recently rebuilt gauge with a new bulb nut and tube. The new nut on that appears to be plated with a silver colored coating and it is also definitely ferrous.
    It seems reasonable to believe the Smiths used off the shelf nuts and there is a good chance that the nuts were not all the same throughout the production. A yellow nut might not be out of the question but it surely makes you wonder about the provenance of the one on ebay. The needle attachment doesn't look quite right either.
    The Rimmer repros are looking better all the time.
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    Re: TR3 Temperature gauge

    Good call on the needle not looking correct Tom. I have taken a few apart and they are basically the same as an oil gauge with the same insides.

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    Re: TR3 Temperature gauge

    You're right Tom - on that eBay one the needle attachment is very visible at the gauge face, plus I don't see a needle stop on it. I dug out a gauge head I have and the attachment is lower and not visible. It happened to have an unusual PN, "X.80500/3 RT 70", so I took some pictures if anyone is interested. At these prices I should graft a new bulb onto it.
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    FWIW, I have an original gauge I got off a parts car in the late 80s; the bulb nut is definitely ferrous and pretty rusty.

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    Re: TR3 Temperature gauge

    Hey John....I may have a spare. I got a bunch of Gauges in a box. Are you still wanting it if if doesnt work, but correct in design?
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    Re: TR3 Temperature gauge

    Thanks JP, but I got the one off Ebay...and afraid I fueled driving prices even higher. When you're down to the last item for a set in a collection that last item is always the most expensive?!

    I think the OP, Dan, is still looking, but he hasn't been back since the OP...
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