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    Re: Interesting experience

    Doc that really sounds like a reasonable rule. I like it.
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    Re: Interesting experience

    Seems like as the new vehicles come out, repair options become worse, especially after the warranty is over. Since I've owned a lot of Ford trucks over the years, I almost bought a new Ford truck until I found out to pull a head off the engine, the whole cab has to be lifted off the chassis as the firewall protrudes over the back of the engine! If the warranty is over, think of the shop time involved $$$$. I bought a Chevy instead. Only bought it because we wanted more room for the pups.

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    Re: Interesting experience

    Quote Originally Posted by JPSmit View Post
    In other news, had a text from my brother today - his 2013 Sante Fe engine just seized. Looks like there is a lot of issues with the engines still having swarf in them from the manufacturing process. yikes
    Swarf? Not sure what that is, but it doesn't sound good. My 07 is coming up on 300k (knock on wood).
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    Re: Interesting experience

    Quote Originally Posted by Basil View Post
    Swarf? Not sure what that is, but it doesn't sound good. My 07 is coming up on 300k (knock on wood).
    The engines failed due to metal shavings left behind when the engine was manufactured. This blocked the oil galleries and you can guess what it did to the engine.
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    Re: Interesting experience

    Quote Originally Posted by Gliderman8 View Post
    The engines failed due to metal shavings left behind when the engine was manufactured. This blocked the oil galleries and you can guess what it did to the engine.
    Well I'll be. I learned a new word. Honestly had never heard that word before. Anytime I've heard people talk about metal filings, they would always call them metal filings. But hey, never to old to learn!

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    Re: Interesting experience

    Last year when I was looking for a car I found a fully loaded KIA Optima on a dealership lot. The salesman was in the passenger seat when I started the engine. As soon as it started it made a horrific metal-to-metal sound and I immediately shut it down. I asked the salesman if “the car had oil?”
    His response was “they all sound that way when they start”. When I got home I put the vin number in the NHTSB website only to find out that the car was included in the 1.2 million engine recall.
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    Re: Interesting experience

    Elliot - was that a *used*Kia?

    https://www.consumerreports.org/used...d-recall-work/

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    Re: Interesting experience

    Growing up in the industrial N.E. and having a father who managed a machine shop and the Destructive Testing lab for a large steel company, knowing what swarf is was part of the upbringing.

    Dad would tell folks his major product for the company was swarf and scrap.
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    Re: Interesting experience

    Quote Originally Posted by NutmegCT View Post
    Elliot - was that a *used*Kia?

    https://www.consumerreports.org/used...d-recall-work/

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    Yes Tom it was used. Only 17K miles and the price was VERY ATTRACTIVE.
    Once I learned why it was so attractive I called the salesman back; he swore he knew nothing about the engine problem. I suggested he find a new line of work.
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    Re: Interesting experience

    Quote Originally Posted by Gliderman8 View Post
    Yes Tom it was used. Only 17K miles and the price was VERY ATTRACTIVE.
    Once I learned why it was so attractive I called the salesman back; he swore he knew nothing about the engine problem. I suggested he find a new line of work.
    He probably moved on to a quality control job.
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    Re: Interesting experience

    Quote Originally Posted by NutmegCT View Post
    He probably moved on to a quality control job.
    Right, for Hyundai
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    Re: Interesting experience

    Quote Originally Posted by Basil View Post
    Well I'll be. I learned a new word. Honestly had never heard that word before. Anytime I've heard people talk about metal filings, they would always call them metal filings. But hey, never to old to learn!

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    It is a term you do hear in regular use on British Car forums located in Britain. ie. a britishism
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    Re: Interesting experience

    Quote Originally Posted by NutmegCT View Post
    Elliot - was that a *used*Kia?

    Cave omnia!
    and yet my Kia Soul just keeps on going and is listed as an engine that is good for 250000 miles.

    BTW my brother got A 2016 Nissan Rogue - first impressions are very good
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    Re: Interesting experience

    I learned what swarf was when I was about four, my dad had a machinist friend and I remember thinking the curly metal filings that came off when he was cutting were very cool looking so I picked one up off the floor and promptly cut myself. When I showed my finger to my dad he said "why did you pick up the swarf?" I said "what?" and he said "the swarf, the metal filings." It has stuck with me ever since.
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    I knew before I finished reading that you'd drawn blood, Walt.
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    Re: Interesting experience

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    We had a hard and fast rule in our shop: If the car is over ten years old, there is no "flat rate" for any job. Pay the hourly or take it elsewhere. Rusted fasteners, bodged work by prior folks, too many variables and no crystal ball to consult.
    I am the same, but if it has a computer I don’t want to see it!
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    Re: Interesting experience

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    I am the same, but if it has a computer I don’t want to see it!
    Yup. Nothing with a brain-box would be admitted.
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    Re: Interesting experience

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    I knew before I finished reading that you'd drawn blood, Walt.
    Best way to learn the stove is hot is to touch it, right?
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    Yup. Nothing with a brain-box would be admitted.
    That explains why I can't get anyone to work on my old 1989 F250 truck - it has an ODB1 brainbox that seems like it has had a partial lobotomy and I have never been able to get it running really well. It runs best now that the check engine light is stuck ON....

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