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    Since when...

    ...did the pronunciation of the word "homage" change from hom'-ij or om'-ij to oh-mahj'?

    I know - too much time on my hands. But every time I hear this my stomach churns. SHEESH! Main culprits, of course, are talking heads (especially the ones on the "entertainment news" programs) who seem to need to appear overly erudite.

    OK, like Tom (Nutmeg), back to my cave...
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    Re: Since when...

    I have many such words that I dislike (for a variety of reasons)... overused, re-pronounced, substituted when something simpler would be better.
    My current pet peeve is the overuse of the word "curate" (for something as simple as "select" or similar). "Here we offer our specially curated collection of fine chocolates/wines/motor-oils."
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    Re: Since when...

    While I go to Target (Tar-get), some people go to Tar-jhey
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    Re: Since when...

    In the military, one of the most overused words is people saying "concur" instead of "agree."
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    Re: Since when...

    Quote Originally Posted by Basil View Post
    In the military, one of the most overused words is people saying "concur" instead of "agree."

    Yeah, but at least they pronounce it properly!
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    Re: Since when...

    Quote Originally Posted by Basil View Post
    While I go to Target (Tar-get), some people go to Tar-jhey

    We enjoy "Tar-jhey" but then that's supposed to be a joke.
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    Re: Since when...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boink View Post
    I have many such words that I dislike (for a variety of reasons)... overused, re-pronounced, substituted when something simpler would be better.
    My current pet peeve is the overuse of the word "curate" (for something as simple as "select" or similar). "Here we offer our specially curated collection of fine chocolates/wines/motor-oils."
    And for me, "curate" is a noun.
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    Re: Since when...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Richaud View Post
    And for me, "curate" is a noun.
    Oh, I thought you used it after the doctor tells you that you have an disease and you ask what the curate is.
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    Re: Since when...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gliderman8 View Post
    Oh, I thought you used it after the doctor tells you that you have an disease and you ask what the curate is.
    actually, depending on the seriousness, you ask WHERE the curate is.

    On the other hand I hope you concur that if mispronounced words is at the top of our list of peeves and frustrations, we have a pretty great life! (probably especially curated for us)
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    Re: Since when...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Richaud View Post
    ...did the pronunciation of the word "homage" change from hom'-ij or om'-ij to oh-mahj'? ......
    ..... Main culprits, of course, are talking heads (especially the ones on the "entertainment news" programs) who seem to need to appear overly erudite.......
    Oh-mahj is the correct French pronunciation. Although they spell it hommage. So unless you have the script the talking heads are reading from, you can't really be sure they're pronouncing it wrong. The French sort of have dibs on art references. I've pretty much never heard the hom-mij pronunciation used when talking about art, literature, theater, etc.

    In school, my art professor (with his native Brooklyn accent) used oh-mahj for art references. My History professor used hom-ij referring to vassal lords paying off the king.

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    Re: Since when...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gliderman8 View Post
    Oh, I thought you used it after the doctor tells you that you have an disease and you ask what the curate is.
    I thunk it wuz something you do to a ham.
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    Re: Since when...

    One of my least favorites is when the talking heads use "begs the question" when they mean "raises the question".
    Harrumph.
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    Re: Since when...

    Ah yes ... I remember when I earned spending money by mowing Aristotle's lawn. Back then, *impact* was a noun - *affect* was a verb.

    "The increase in taxes impacted the economy."

    yeesh

    And journalists were Walter Cronkite, David Brinkley, H V Kaltenborn, Edward Murrow. The "news readers" followed.
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    Re: Since when...

    Quote Originally Posted by Basil View Post
    In the military, one of the most overused words is people saying "concur" instead of "agree."
    Bas, I completely concur.

    I think that using a more continental pronunciation for words like homage instead of our American pronunciation is more than just an attempt to sound more erudite since it is the way most French people pronounce it. Mirriam Webster does still list a-mij as the correct pronunciation still but also lists o-mazh as acceptable as well.
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    Re: Since when...

    Quote Originally Posted by PC View Post
    Oh-mahj is the correct French pronunciation. Although they spell it hommage.
    Just remember "The French don't care what they do exactly, as long as they pronounce it correctly"..
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    Re: Since when...

    The one that bugs me is when people start what they are going to say with "I mean..." when the haven't said anything yet. Nails on a chalkboard to me. Also "these ones" or "those ones" I mean...
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    Re: Since when...

    And how 'bout the word "like" -

    So, like, I was downtown the other day, and, like, there was a girl, like, behind me, who was, like, speaking quickly and like, using the word like, like it was going out of, like, style. She, like must have used the word, like at least, like, 10 times.

    It was like driving me crazy.

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    Re: Since when...

    Quote Originally Posted by bobhustead View Post
    One of my least favorites is when the talking heads use "begs the question" when they mean "raises the question".
    Harrumph.
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    Re: Since when...

    And I am SO SICK of the phrase "on the ground." Yeah, it started with "boots on the ground" but now it used by everyone to mean something like "being there" (boots are otherwise).
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