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    Re: one less fortress

    https://nypost.com/2019/10/02/world-...ticut-airport/

    Collings Foundation, probably Nine-O-Nine.

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    Re: one less fortress

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    Collings Foundation, probably Nine-O-Nine.
    What a tragedy from the loss of life to the loss of a warbird. My keychain:

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    Re: one less fortress

    Sad for all involved.
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    Re: one less fortress

    Last one I flew in was a Collings Group B-17, but it was really Aluminum Overcast. I think.

    Their 17 was down for serious maintenance (maybe that was the belly landing issue...can't remember...or a baggage cart) and they pulled one out of a museum with a bad motor, swapped one of theirs in for the tour.

    Had to have been close to 20 years ago now. Details.....

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine-O-Nine

    1987 was the biggest before today. Again in 1995 in Norfolk, Nebraska.

    Read that link....and three Atomic Tests with a 13-year cool down period...........

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    Re: one less fortress

    News reports now confirming that it was the Nine-O-Nine (tail number visible from crash photos matches previous 909 photos as well). Very sad - loss of life as well as the irreplacable aircraft itself. Multiple things had to really go wrong here - these planes were known for being able to stay in the air and bring crew home even with major components shot up or peices outright missing. Witness reports are saying the 909 had at least one engine stopped and trailing smoke but no visible fire until after returning to the runway. The NTSB and FAA are really good at what they do, I have faith they will be able to determine what went wrong.


    I rode on the Liberty Belle in 2008, it was lost to an in-flight fire in 2011 but that resulted in no loss of life - they were able to put it down on a farm field (while on fire) and successfully evacuate. I never felt unsafe when I was onboard - it really did seem like a flying tank. The onboard fire was determined to be a fuel valve or fitting that failed in the wing.

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    Re: one less fortress

    Hi all. This morning my brother Steve (visiting from Arizona) and I were at TAC (Bradley Airport in Hartford) waiting for the Collings 909 to land, when it came down. The actual crash was just outside of our view (we were behind the TAC building), but the black smoke was horrendous.

    I remember thinking what the heck was happening as the a/c passed over the area - a failing aircraft, completely mis-aligned with the runway. Very sad. Within minutes, about a dozen firetrucks and ambulances, and fire control vehicles, were on the scene. Bradley was closed down immediately to incoming and outgoing flights.

    It's 7pm and I just got home; brother Steve is on his way back to Arizona after numerous re-bookings by American Airlines.

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    Re: one less fortress

    Glad to hear from you Tom. My first thought upon hearing of the accident this morning was you, as I had a feeling you were close to the events. Glad you and your brother are safe.
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    Re: one less fortress

    First report I heard was that a WW-II fighter aircraft had gone in, then an hour later it was confirmed that a bomber of the era was what crashed. Immediate thought was that there were multiple casualties in that case. Folks who'd paid for a ride in it along with crew. What a tragedy.
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    Re: one less fortress

    Some want to ground all vintage planes until they know what happened. Don't see the point in that. Sad situation indeed.
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    Re: one less fortress

    That’s a bit over the top.
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    Re: one less fortress

    Quote Originally Posted by Grantura_MKI View Post
    That’s a bit over the top.
    I thought so. Seems like a knee-jerk reaction to show they are "doing something."
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    Re: one less fortress

    Sad. I guess if John travolta or Harrison Ford was flying it would be ok?
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    Re: one less fortress

    Quote Originally Posted by Grantura_MKI View Post
    Sad. I guess if John travolta or Harrison Ford was flying it would be ok?
    I don't follow.
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    Re: one less fortress

    It was ok to fly when they crashed old plane?
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    Re: one less fortress

    Quote Originally Posted by Grantura_MKI View Post
    It was ok to fly when they crashed old plane?
    Maybe I'm too tired.
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    Re: one less fortress

    I just hate to see life and history lost is what I meant.
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    Re: one less fortress

    Quote Originally Posted by Grantura_MKI View Post
    I just hate to see life and history lost is what I meant.
    I suspect most of us feel the same. Been a long day.
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    Re: one less fortress

    Hope tomorrow is better. I remember Ford taking a plane down on a golf coarse.
    My meaning was meant that I hope they don’t ground history and make the aircraft the blame.
    RIP please.
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    Re: one less fortress

    Our club, the Austin-Healey Club of New England, has been fortunate to hold some events at the Collings Foundation. It's truly a wonderful resource and memorable for those of us who have some connection to World War II aircraft. I thought this video gives a good background on the work of the foundation and some thoughtful reminders

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