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    It doesn't pay to cheat

    Actress Felicity Huffman was sentenced to 14 days in jail, ordered to pay $30,000 fine, be on supervised release for 1 year and perform community service (250hrs). This, because she paid someone $15,000 to "up" her daughter's SAT score to get her into college. [She's the wife of actor William H. Macy (Wild Hogs, Air Force One...)]

    Huffman pled guilty. Another actress, Lori Laughlin, is fighting similar charges in court.
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    Re: It doesn't pay to cheat

    Does she get the money she paid refunded? Do the folks who set this up and took the money get jail time?

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    Re: It doesn't pay to cheat

    Poor baby.
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    Re: It doesn't pay to cheat

    "It doesn't pay to cheat".... based on her sentence maybe it did pay to cheat.
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    Re: It doesn't pay to cheat

    Some of the people will probably get jail time; Rick Singer has pled guilty but not been sentenced yet.

    How well it "pays" remains to be seen, IMO. An Ivy League diploma can be worth a LOT of money over a lifetime, as it's a stepping-stone to all sorts of lucrative positions down the road. $30,000 (to a rich person) and a couple months picking up trash doesn't really seem proportionate, to me.

    And the scams have been going on for a long time. Singer got "caught" some 5 years ago, but denied all knowledge and apparently went right on doing it.
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    Re: It doesn't pay to cheat

    One would hope/presume that Singer would get BIG jail-time (this time).
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    Re: It doesn't pay to cheat

    Barely a slap on the wrist.

    Pity, that.
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    Re: It doesn't pay to cheat

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Richaud View Post
    Barely a slap on the wrist.
    Pity, that.
    I think the only deterrent is the horrible publicity... but had that not happened, it would surely be business as usual.
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    Re: It doesn't pay to cheat

    I keep hearing about the celebrities who bribed, what about the people who falsified records or accepted bribes to get them in. I would think those people should get harsher sentences and were presumably in some sort of position of trust and allowed this to happen or facilitated it.

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    Re: It doesn't pay to cheat

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    Re: It doesn't pay to cheat

    Plenty of blame to go around, from affluent parents all the way up to the schools. That Singer guy and the SAT "elevators" should certainly have their wings clipped.

    Seems greed trumping merit is the heart of the issue to me. An impulse not necessarily confined to the human species, either.
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    Re: It doesn't pay to cheat

    "We do everything we can for our kids."

    Right. Like buying them whatever they want, filling their rooms with toys, giving them the flashiest cars, doing their work for them, writing their term papers, finding them a job, hiring the best lawyers to defend them.

    Yep - we do everything we can for our kids.

    Except maybe, helping them to grow up.
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    Re: It doesn't pay to cheat

    Quote Originally Posted by TR3driver View Post
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    Re: It doesn't pay to cheat

    Quote Originally Posted by NutmegCT View Post
    "We do everything we can for our kids."

    Right. Like buying them whatever they want, filling their rooms with toys, giving them the flashiest cars, doing their work for them, writing their term papers, finding them a job, hiring the best lawyers to defend them.

    Yep - we do everything we can for our kids.

    Except maybe, helping them to grow up.
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    Re: It doesn't pay to cheat

    She will probable get a hot spot on the morning shows after her 14 days of "Hard Time".

    What about the kids that did not get a place at that school because of the cheating?

    I think I read about a kid that filed a law suit against the school when he was kicked out because his parents cheated to get him in. Claimed he had nothing to do with the cheating so he should be allowed to stay.

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    Re: It doesn't pay to cheat

    I went to an Ivy League school - UPenn. How come I'm not rich and still working at 85??

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    Re: It doesn't pay to cheat

    Quote Originally Posted by pdplot View Post
    I went to an Ivy League school - UPenn. How come I'm not rich and still working at 85??
    I'm betting that you enjoy what you do... that's why
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    Re: It doesn't pay to cheat

    I'm guessing you didn't cheat enough
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    Re: It doesn't pay to cheat

    Fascinating Op ED piece in the New York Times - don't understand all the connections, but, author claims that the families who want/have their kids attend the elite schools invest 10 million more PER CHILD! than 'regular' families/schools. :0

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/12/o...EwtG9Y_GZnjuDE
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    Re: It doesn't pay to cheat

    Lori Laughlin and her husband may get serious time since they not only paid for SAT scores but paid school employees to create false recommendations and scholarship qualifications, half a million bucks worth. Then refused to admit they'd done anything that would be considered wrong. And to me the funny thing is, the daughters weren't really interested in going to college, one was in Tahiti with friends on some rich guy's boat rather than starting school. She apparently wanted the homecoming and partying experience but said she wasn't into "that school thing". They'd have been better off to buy season tickets and a map to fraternity houses and said "knock yourself out and let us know how that social media influencer thing is by the time you 30s and there's a million young girls taking your place"...

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