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    Six turning and four burning

    My favorite scene in one of my favorite aviation movies, Strategic Air Command, 1955. It's taking off over Fort Worth, where I was a kid going to Bluebonnet Elementary School.



    Altho' the B-36 Peacemaker was designed during WW2 with six piston engines (P&W Wasp Majors), two double-jet pods were added soon after. The Majors faced aft, so cooling was a problem - might be better described as “two turning, two burning, two smoking, two choking and two more unaccounted for.”

    A big plane. Size matters.

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    A B-17, B-29, and a B-36. A prize for identifying the fourth aircraft - top center!
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    Re: Six turning and four burning

    DC2?
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    Re: Six turning and four burning

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidApp View Post
    DC2?
    Getting close ...
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    Re: Six turning and four burning

    Quote Originally Posted by NutmegCT View Post
    Getting close ...

    I would guess C-47 Skytrain?

    PS: Strategic Air Command is one of my all time favorite movies!
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    Re: Six turning and four burning

    Quote Originally Posted by Basil View Post
    I would guess C-47 Skytrain?

    PS: Strategic Air Command is one of my all time favorite movies!
    C-47 - gettin' farther away. Closer to the DC-2.
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    Re: Six turning and four burning

    Another wild stab - pictures not that clear of the front, but could it be a B-18 Bolo?
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    Re: Six turning and four burning

    Quote Originally Posted by Basil View Post
    Another wild stab - pictures not that clear of the front, but could it be a B-18 Bolo?



    Bolo it is! That's the pre-WW2 bomber that convinced the army they needed a larger aircraft - the B-17.



    Hardly anyone remembers the B-18 - bravo!
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    Re: Six turning and four burning

    When you compare it to the B-17, B-29, B-36 it's hard to imagine that as a bomber. Doesn't;'t look much bigger than a Beachcraft 18.
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    Re: Six turning and four burning

    Love the B-36, amazing plane, wish I could have seen one fly. My uncle (long gone) remembered working on these at Scott Air Force Base in Illinois. Yes also on "Strategic Air Command". Talk about a period piece.

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    Re: Six turning and four burning

    I feel really lucky that I grew up along with the 36. They flew over our neighborhood (south Fort Worth) almost every day. You felt them before you heard them or saw them.

    Take a look at the aircraft at the Castle Air Museum in California. A large collection, only one I know that includes the B-17, B-18, B-23, B-29, and B-36.

    https://www.castleairmuseum.org/collection

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    Re: Six turning and four burning

    I did a tad of research on the Big Stick long ago.
    They pulled the pods off the B-47 assembly line and tried them out.

    Trivia:

    What type of fuel did the jets burn?

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    Re: Six turning and four burning

    Back then it could have been JP-1, basically Kerosene. Then JP-3, a mixture of 65% gasoline and the rest Kerosene. JP-3 would vapor off easily due to the high content of gas in it. We used mostly JP-4 in the Cougars and Furys, don't remember the compound. Later the ratings and ident numbers changed to A, B and whatever. PJ

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    Re: Six turning and four burning

    You don't really get a feel for how big it is until you've stood beside one. NMUSAF has one of the few survivors.

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    Re: Six turning and four burning

    Nope. There was never any dual-fuel capabilities in the 36.
    AvGas.

    Apparently you can jet (joke?) a jet to run on just about anything.

    Since the jet pods were primarily to get a war load off the ground in a SAC mission, the PTB (powers that be) did not want to compromise overall range by adding JetA tanks in place of AvGas.

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    Re: Six turning and four burning

    Yea I know jet engines will run on just about anything, but better on some fuels than others. We had a couple Navy TV-2s, (AF T33s) with GE Allisons in them and it was specified they would run on avgas in an emergency, but JP was the fuel of choice.

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    Re: Six turning and four burning

    There was also...a C-119 Flying Boxcar with an auxiliary jet on top of the wing root...same thing, avgas.

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    Re: Six turning and four burning

    C119-N5216R.jpg
    Then the 123 with jet pods underwing:

    and the XC-123:


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    Re: Six turning and four burning

    And of course, the 1939 Ercoupe, with rocket assisted take off.



    Ercoupe 415 - a very cool little aircraft. Safer than most of the era.
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    Re: Six turning and four burning

    We are also fortunate to have a B-36 nearby at the SAC museum between Lincoln and Omaha. Several years ago our local club did a cooperative display with them over the winter including my Healey 100, commemorating the Curtis LeMay-sports car racing connection.

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    Re: Six turning and four burning

    That is a great photo of a great car and a great Thunderstreak! And now, for LeMay and his Corvette:

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