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NutmegCT

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Does it sometimes seem that Mt. Everest ascents aren't what they used to be? This is ridiculous.

Everest May 22 2019.jpg

May 22, 2019. The money spent, and the sherpa lives risked, so they can take their selfie.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48395241

yeesh indeed.
 

PAUL161

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At $11,000 a pop, their not going to reduce the number of permits! There's so much money involved, the chance of curtailing the numbers is extremely slim, regardless of the amount of deaths. :rolleyes2:

381 permits = $4,191,000 so far this year!
 

DrEntropy

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To bend an old saw: "Remember when sex was safe and ascending Everest was dangerous?" :smirk:
 

Popeye

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You know, if the money goes to a good cause (needed employment, development, etc.), power to them. Not for me, although I suppose I could see the allure of saying โ€œIโ€™ve been to the highest point in the world.โ€ Next it might be the lowest point in the ocean!

Having said that I am sure where the 4m went...
 

TR3driver

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The whole point is that climbing Everest is difficult and dangerous. It's not an amusement park!

If you're worried about being "safe", go find the nearest rocking chair.
 

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Well this is a surprise. A British sports car forum where we're talking about mountaineering. Does Sir Edmund drive a Triumph?

Its a shame what has happened on Chomolungma. Whana'be climbers with $25,000 burning a whole in their pockets. What you don't see in the photo are the piles of **** the size of a two-man tent, the piles of discarded O2 bottles that people were too tired to carry back down and the bodies on the route that you have to step around. There are several of them now. And many others under the ice that we'll never see again. It takes four strong climbers to remove one body. You have to carry it all the way down to base camp where it can be picked-up by a chopper. Please correct me if I'm wrong but, I don't think choppers can fly much above 18,000ft.

Its become a major source of income for the Nepalese government and there are no plans to start limiting the number of permits sold every year. So, this is what you'll get if you want to climb the big fella'. Too bad for Alpine purists like myself. The situation is such that a small party of serious climbers couldn't even get on the peak. Even if you could pony up the $100,000 peak fee, you'd be last in line. If I went to Everest I'd be quite happy just bagging up some of the garbage and hauling it off. Would it be dangerous? Yes. Would it be sporting? I'm not sure. Is picking up dukey at 25,000ft. mountaineering? Yes and No.

I've had to retire from the sport that I lived for due to skeletal damage. I declared war on gravity when I was twelve. I won some battles but Gravity won the war. That's why I need horsepower and braking. I'm off to finish installing the new wiring harness on my '67 TR4A.

Peace, Nils.
 

DrEntropy

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Hillary and Norgay have got to be spinning at 3500 RPM.
 

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Hillary and Norgay have got to be spinning at 3500 RPM.

At least. Coincidentally, as I was driving back from the boondocks where I went to shoot the Milkyway last night, the news station I was listening too on Sirius XM was talking about the situation on Everest.
 

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I may climb Mt. Everett- in Massachusetts. If my old legs can take it.

I've been to the summit of Mount Evans in Colorado. Took the road to the visitor's center near the summit, then hiked about 100 yards to the summit. But it was a tough 100 yards, uphill, at over 14k feet!
 

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I'm in luck. There's a road to the top of Mt. Everett! All 2600 plus feet, 1800 vertical. Oxygen and Sherpa guide not needed I suppose. I'll take a bottle of water and I'll climb it "because its there". At 85, a car is a mountain climbers best and only friend. I've been up Pike's Peak, Mt. Equinox, Whiteface Mountain, Mt. Rainier (Paradise area only at about 7 thousand feet), Mt. Mitchell, Mt. Washington and Anthony's Nose. My legs feel like cement walking up my driveway though I did over four hours of birding at White Memorial yesterday uphill and downhill.
 

PAUL161

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It's lost all it's luster, it means nothing anymore on the Nepal side, commercialism ($) has a way of doing things like that. :rolleyes2:
 

70herald

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Does it sometimes seem that Mt. Everest ascents aren't what they used to be? This is ridiculous.

Or exactly like they used to be John Krakauer wrote a book 20 years ago "Into thin air" about the 1996 Everest climb season which also result in the death and injury of multiple climbers.
 

Boink

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The fees surely wouldn't cover the occasional use of the Nepalese (military) carbon-fiber/super-light-weight helicopter.
One wonders how they'll eventually resolve the garbage problem at the camps.
 
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Mark - good point about the garbage.

Wonder if there's a way to get rich people to use their $50K for cleaning up the mountain, instead of for a "summit selfie" and leaving even more garbage.

Nah - not a chance.
Tom M.

Edit: Just heard an experienced Everest climber interviewed on CBS news. He suggested a way to deal with the Everest situation. The Nepalese government could require anyone wanting to climb Everest to prove he/she has already climbed two other Nepalese peaks. That keeps the jobs and money in Nepal, and greatly cuts down on the number of "Everest only" climbers.
 
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