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    Bugeye generator color

    My Horler is gone and mr google shows a variety of colors, mainly black and engine green. Which color is correct for a 1960 Bugeye?
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    Re: Bugeye generator color

    Engine green.
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    Re: Bugeye generator color

    Rick,
    Thanks, that’s the way I was leaning and I disassembled the generator and prepped it for paint. It’s a Bugeye with a 1275 and 5 speed and I’m trying not to have any glaringly wrong things visually that slap you in the face.
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    Re: Bugeye generator color

    My Generator on Bugsy IV is Black. New Alternator in Lucas Case is Black. Rut I also sent you a PM earlier today.
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    Re: Bugeye generator color

    Rut,

    I saw these on Facebook the other day, a bugeye belonging to Ben Kenion. As a former Sprite concours judge, I can tell you this is one of the most accurate cars I've seen in about 40 years:


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    Re: Bugeye generator color

    Looks pretty darn correct to me, Rick, but what about the heater valve? Not a concourse guy but that one doesn't look right somehow.

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    Re: Bugeye generator color

    Quote Originally Posted by nomad View Post
    Looks pretty darn correct to me, Rick, but what about the heater valve? Not a concourse guy but that one doesn't look right somehow.

    Kurt.
    Good question, Kurt. I don't have my references nearby, but I've always seen them in natural brass. It could be they were painted black at the factory, which would've peeled off quite quickly as soon as hot water started passing through the valve and the brass began to expand and contract.
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    Re: Bugeye generator color

    Rick,
    Thank you, thank you, thank you! That is exactly what I’m looking for and it answers other questions I was getting ready to post.
    Thanks, Rut
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    Re: Bugeye generator color

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim_Gruber View Post
    My Generator on Bugsy IV is Black. New Alternator in Lucas Case is Black. Rut I also sent you a PM earlier today.
    Jim,
    Thanks, I responded to your pm earlier today.
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    Re: Bugeye generator color

    IIRC the engines were painted with ancillaries like the generator installed - just a pass with the spray.
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    Re: Bugeye generator color

    On a related theme, this was posted on Hemmings this week - re Concours restorations.

    https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2017/1...d-be-rejected/
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    Re: Bugeye generator color

    I've encountered quite a few of the early heater valves and they all had hand wheels like the old water valves we grew up with. Not a knurled hand wheel like that one. Not worth the trouble to look but just nit picking!

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    Re: Bugeye generator color

    Quote Originally Posted by nomad View Post
    I've encountered quite a few of the early heater valves and they all had hand wheels like the old water valves we grew up with. Not a knurled hand wheel like that one. Not worth the trouble to look but just nit picking!

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    Kurt,

    You're right, the early cars did have the garden faucet style wheel, but they later changed to the one you see here. I'd have to check my parts manual to see the change point but I'm too lazy. BTW, this bugeye is a gold level concours car and the interior is a knockout with original rubber floor mats:

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    Re: Bugeye generator color

    John Kuzman in Cincinnati has a very fine BE also with Leaf Green mats. Those seem to have survived better than the other colors.
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    Re: Bugeye generator color

    Quote Originally Posted by nomad View Post
    I've encountered quite a few of the early heater valves and they all had hand wheels like the old water valves we grew up with. Not a knurled hand wheel like that one. Not worth the trouble to look but just nit picking!

    Kurt.
    My original heater valve was like the one pictured and I had a few from parts cars that varied in minor things like the knob and height. I rebuilt the original including a new seat cut, packing, and washer, but alas, it went up in the fire with all of the other restored parts. It was no more than a puddle of melted brass.
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    Re: Bugeye generator color

    Wow, Rut, takes a pretty hot fire to melt brass! Maybe that one is original.

    Rick, those floor mats alone ought to win that car every concourse! Was that car at the Sprite 50th at LOTO? I didn't stay at the hotel but seem to remember a very nice Concourse BE in the lobby. Don't remember now if it was leaf green or not.

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    Re: Bugeye generator color

    The Sprite in the lobby was Miss Agatha. It belonged to Jack Laird. He sold it a while back. I believe it went to someone on the East coast. I remember that it was very well done but I don't recall the color.
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    Miss Agatha was purchased by Bill Mayer and trailered in a rather interesting adventure from FL to San Diego, which involved needing to purchase a different Tow Vehicle along the way. Bill subsequently sold Miss Agatha to a woman from TX IIRC. Not sure if he has heard anything about Miss Agatha lately.
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    Re: Bugeye generator color

    Quote Originally Posted by nomad View Post
    Wow, Rut, takes a pretty hot fire to melt brass! Maybe that one is original.


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    We were at the end of a 3 Mo drought and the pool house/shop was all V groove pine paneling. When the power came back on from the outage it started a fire in an outlet, the best that the fire investigators could figure out, but since all of the copper, aluminum, and brass was melted they couldn’t be 100% sure. The fire was so hot that it broke windows in the house, melted gutters and roof shingles, blinds inside the garage, engine stands, carbs, manifolds, SS headers, transmissions, etc. When the oxygen cylinders exploded it shook windows in the neighborhood and blew out a side wall. I had 2 Lincoln mig welders and it melted both of them! Have you ever seen magnesium wheels burn?
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    Re: Bugeye generator color

    Wow, Rut, oxygen cylinders would probably add to the heat. Haven't seen magnesium wheels burn but the local welding shop went to weld a lawn mower deck once not knowing it was magnesium so the locals got to chuckle about it for a while!

    Seems that my poor memory puts the LOTO Sprite at leaf green or blue. Nice car.
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