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    Question Which seat frame do I have?

    Hi Guys! I've stripped my passenger seat down and would really appreciate your knowledge on what frame I have. My TR4 was built 10/23/1962, but my seat covers (per Moss pictures) are from a 4a. Are my frames from a 4a? The front of the passenger side has a small 'dent' in the lower rail that the driver's side doesn't appear to have (driver side is still covered). Am I correct that my lower frame shouldn't be 'dented'? Any ideas what the small chrome 'zerk' looking item is on the inboard side of the passenger seat frame? Thanks in advance for any help!
    seat frame (post media blast) (1).jpgseat frame (post media blast) (2).jpgseat frame (post media blast) (3).jpgseat frame (post media blast) (4).jpgWhat is This.jpg
    I hated to revive this old thread...https://www.britishcarforum.com/bcf/...4a-seat-frames
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    Re: Which seat frame do I have?

    better pictures of the entire frame...Seat Frame (2).jpgSeat Frame (1).jpg
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    Re: Which seat frame do I have?

    I'm not that familiar with the 4A seats but that certainly does not appear to be an early TR4 seat. Tom
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    Re: Which seat frame do I have?

    I'm not either, but they sure do look like the illustration in the 4A SPC
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    Re: Which seat frame do I have?

    Thanks Randall! My spare parts PDF file ends with the BB overdrive plate...I've never seen the BG plate...again, Thanks!
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    Re: Which seat frame do I have?

    They look identical to my TR4a seat frames.
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    Re: Which seat frame do I have?

    Thanks Rut! Yours look a bit better than my 54 yo 100_5400.jpg.Tim.
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    Re: Which seat frame do I have?

    Those are TR4a frames. A 62 TR 4 will have seat frames that look very close to TR3 frames. Main difference is seat pan has a dip in it. I think I may have a set left for pictures but will have to check.
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    Re: Which seat frame do I have?

    I can't contribute to the conversation, as my seats are still under the old, incorrect, covers. But thanks to the details here, I will look here when I start to work on them!

    I just wanted to say thank you for the post and discussion!
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    Re: Which seat frame do I have?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Tucker View Post
    Thanks Randall! My spare parts PDF file ends with the BB overdrive plate...I've never seen the BG plate...again, Thanks!
    Tim
    EDIT: The dime finally dropped, if you have overdrive on BB then you're probably looking at a TR4 SPC rather than the 4A SPC. BB Overdrive is indeed the last plate in the TR4 version; but the TR4A version has overdrive details on plate BK.

    FWIW Here's the TR4 seats illustration
    Last edited by TR3driver; 11-12-2016 at 10:50 AM.
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    Re: Which seat frame do I have?

    If you haven't seen this article:
    7https://www.britishcarforum.com/bcf/...ding-the-Seats
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    Re: Which seat frame do I have?

    Thanks Randall! I have the spare parts PDF that's all over the internet. It has two page 126s (# at bottom NOT PDF page) and is missing page 127. The last numbered page is 130. Here is a link to my bookmarked version.
    https://tidentenn.com/pdf/TR4 Spare ...7 missing).pdf

    Do you happen to have a page with 127 at the bottom...

    Thanks again,
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    Re: Which seat frame do I have?

    Richard: Thanks! I found it late last night as a PDF on "tr4a.weebly". It's going to be my instruction manual. These seats were in my car when I bought it 9-1-1981. I'm sticking with them since the covers are in good enough shape to use as patterns. The foam was disintegrating daily. Always needed to vacuum the car. I owe a big thanks to Alan John Turner for documenting their TR4a seat effort!
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    Re: Which seat frame do I have?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin Gruber View Post
    Those are TR4a frames. A 62 TR 4 will have seat frames that look very close to TR3 frames. Main difference is seat pan has a dip in it. I think I may have a set left for pictures but will have to check.
    Marv
    Btw, these are the seat I bought from you!
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    Re: Which seat frame do I have?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Tucker View Post
    Thanks Randall! I have the spare parts PDF that's all over the internet. It has two page 126s (# at bottom NOT PDF page) and is missing page 127. The last numbered page is 130. Here is a link to my bookmarked version.
    https://tidentenn.com/pdf/TR4 Spare ...7 missing).pdf

    Do you happen to have a page with 127 at the bottom...

    Thanks again,
    Tim
    Just to be clear, that's the TR4 SPC, not the 4A. Different books. I have page 127, but it's from the 2nd edition while the PDF you linked to is the first edition. Might not be exactly the same information (but page 128 appears to be the same so maybe 127 is as well).
    Here's a high rez scan, let me know if you need a different form.
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2H...ew?usp=sharing
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