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bnw
05-14-2012, 03:56 PM
Should I shim the motor mounts on my smallmouth so the dog in the fan bolt lines up perfectly with the hole in the radiator for the hand crank, or am I going over the deep end here?

TR3driver
05-14-2012, 04:31 PM
If you kept the hole & support for the hand crank, then you might as well go ahead and make them usable, IMO. Having the nose of the motor up a bit higher makes it easier to change fan belts anyway.

OTOH, I abandoned the hand crank many years ago, and I can't say I've ever missed it.

bnw
05-14-2012, 05:05 PM
I had too many starter failures when I was a kid in the 60s to give up the hand crank. As for the shims, do I make them, or are they out there?

TR3driver
05-14-2012, 05:16 PM
TRF has them on sale at the moment. P/N 109582.

Last time I had a starter problem was 2001, on the way home from VTR in Breckenridge, CO (1000 miles each way). Made me mad enough to buy a "gear drive" replacement, which is still working fine today.

bnw
05-14-2012, 07:10 PM
Thanks Randall

Geo Hahn
05-15-2012, 02:11 PM
If you choose to make some shims, they look like thia:

https://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc499/Ahwahnee18/TR3/EngineMountShim.jpg

When I had my radiator recored I kept the crank hole -- only reason I redid the rad was because the apron was already off for the timing chain and although the radiator cooled fine it was pretty beat up.

I had to shim the motor mounts a bit as the crank hole in the replacement core was a tad high. Might as well do new motor mounts if you haven't already.

I once had the starter fail on day 1 of a ten day trip. Got in a lot of practice:

https://members.cybertrails.com/~ahwahnee/crank-it.JPG

Also a bit of fun to demonstrate at car shows and, of course, handy when adjusting valves & timing.

bnw
05-15-2012, 04:16 PM
I posted this about a year ago:
In 1966, I stalled my 1960 TR3 in the middle of a busy 5 way intersection in Chicago. My starter, of course, was junk. Just as the impatient drivers at all 5 stoplights were about to get on their horns, I jumped out of the car, hand crank in hand, stuffed it in the guide in front, brought it up on compression and gave it a quick snap. She lit up instantly ( I had done this before ) I jumped back in and proceeded to drive off to a melody of hoots, beeps and applause. THAT is why I've scrapped (sold) a perfectly good R&P. I was 18 at the time.

TODAY: That is also why the hand crank MUST work on my 57!

TR3driver
05-15-2012, 04:24 PM
Good one!

CJD
05-15-2012, 04:43 PM
I had too many starter failures when I was a kid in the 60s to give up the hand crank. As for the shims, do I make them, or are they out there?

That's what the wife is for...to pop the clutch while you push!! I went for a year in the '70's with a bad starter...just picked a good incline before I turned 'er off.

John

Tr3aguy
05-15-2012, 05:20 PM
I pulled the push start on a date once.....leaving the house as her father watched......bad battery....I had to show him the car started before I could take her out again. Oh yeah and I did get her home on time.... :driving: