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Silverghost
04-17-2012, 09:17 PM
Just spotted this on eBay.... As George Takei would say "OH MY.....!"

TR3 with 283 V8 on eBay (https://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1960-Triumph-TR3A-283-ci-Chevrolet-engine-conversion-/330719163430?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4d0065f426 )

mrv8q
04-17-2012, 10:54 PM
Yeah, that's been around awhile... I can't get over the "headers", or lack there of. The lack of beading on the rear fenders, alone, would scare me off. Too bad about the interior, too....

martx-5
04-18-2012, 07:54 AM
That car is only about 20 miles from me. Please don't ask me to go check it out, I don't think my eyes could stand the strain! :eeek:

PAUL161
04-18-2012, 08:10 AM
Ugly paint job for a classic British car. Looks like something a kid would do. JMHO. PJ

TRMark
04-18-2012, 08:29 AM
Oh, I kinda like it. The headers are a bit much but the 283, a real period piece, looks to be using a generator. I assume it has the stock diff. Not exactly my cup, but it looks to be rodded at a time when these old cars were not very valuable and fairly common.

DanB
04-18-2012, 11:12 AM
Here's an idea for you guys... Don't buy it if you think it is so ugly. I think it looks fun.

rustbucket
04-18-2012, 12:39 PM
I can't understand the disdain this car evokes every time it's listed. Yeah, the paint job is a little tacky. A quick scuff and spray and it would be a low buck version of the "California Hot Rods TR3" everyone is drooling over in the other thread.

Give the guy a break.

Silverghost
04-18-2012, 02:11 PM
I can't understand the disdain this car evokes every time it's listed. Yeah, the paint job is a little tacky. A quick scuff and spray and it would be a low buck version of the "California Hot Rods TR3" everyone is drooling over in the other thread.

Give the guy a break.

There was a reason I said "I think I'm going to be sick....??" Something about this seemed wrong, yet not so wrong. Then Mark's observation about it possibly being modified "back in the day" put it into perspective, for me anyway. Back then, this WAS just another old car, why not modify it.

GilsTR
04-18-2012, 03:36 PM
I see this in the same light as the car we are doing for a good friend. I found him a 1 owner 1931 Ford Model A Deluxe Roadster. Little to no rust...and complete. While we are doing the running gear...the body is almost finished at the body shop. You cannot believe how may folks want that body to make a hot rod out of! While the TR side screens are way more scarce than this Model A...to my friend the thought that anyone would take this beautiful old car and turn it into a hot road makes him sick! Each to his own I hear said so often....its his car and his money...do with it as you choose. My guess is that the owner of the car on ebay is not someone we find surfing this site. Gil NoCal

justin_mercier
04-18-2012, 03:56 PM
If you took that car and just sprayed it in matte black, it'd be a nice 'period' hotrod. A matte black with that red leather interior would look very classy.

As far as the Model A goes, some of those hotrods look fantastic... but if you have an original, at this point there are so many companies making reproductions, I say keep the original original, and hot-rod out a repro-body.

angelfj1
04-18-2012, 03:58 PM
I can't understand the disdain this car evokes every time it's listed.Perhaps it's because most of the folks who frequent this site love lbc's and don't like to see them butchered in any way. Now, if this was a hot rod site the perspective would be reversed . . . . but it's not . . . a hot rod site , that is.

Oh, BTW, I think it's hideous! :eeek:

TomMull
04-18-2012, 04:57 PM
Not much around that hasn't been butchered, some famously others less successfully. T-bucket, Deuce, AC Bristol (Cobra), Sunbeam Alpine (Tiger) come to mind, for example. If it's fun and well done, It's fine, IMO. Even though I cringe at the thought of Randy Schultz cutting his rust free small mouth in two, it's another nice job of butchering. TR3 (https://www.britishv8.org/Articles/Triumph-TR3-Plus-4.htm)
Tom

angelfj1
04-18-2012, 06:47 PM
Tom: I've see that project in the past. It's almost acceptable, IMHO! :lol:

rlwhitetr3b
04-18-2012, 07:18 PM
I know this one has been on here before, but I think this TR3A is about as modified as as you can get.
TR3A 4x4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f9QIalMoIM)

TRMark
04-18-2012, 09:26 PM
Whoa! I'm broad minded when it comes to car mods, but. The background music should have been from Deliverance.

martx-5
04-19-2012, 07:12 AM
... If it's fun and well done, It's fine, IMO...

The key phrase here is "well done". I have no problem if the mods are "well done", as in Randy's TR3. I really like what he did with that car. If the changes are not well thought out and the workmanship is below par, then it deserves to be criticized.

Brosky
04-19-2012, 07:41 AM
I take enough heat from the original lovers for my cars, I cars, I can only imagine what this guy must hear.

GBRandy
04-19-2012, 08:37 AM
As a TR8 owner I see this stuff ALL THE TIME.

The TR8 mailing list is a mess. Numerous posts are about how to do engine, tranny and rear end swaps. The other posts are asking why their 1992 Buick V6 engine is overheating in their TR7. I am here for history & preservation....not chop and hot rod.

Let me quickly add, I am not against nor care about modding the cars... If you want to hot rod them, go ahead if that is your thing...great! But join a hot rod forum.

At some point the car crosses a line and is longer a Triumph. The unanswered question for some is where that line resides.

martx-5
04-19-2012, 08:38 AM
I take enough heat from the original lovers for my cars, I cars, I can only imagine what this guy must hear.

You'll never hear that from me. Your mods are well thought out and were exercised with incredible attention to detail and craftsmanship...all done while keeping within the spirit of the original TR6.

CJD
04-19-2012, 09:46 AM
I like it...although I wouldn't pay that much, and apparently neither will anyone else when I'm posting this (zero bids). That's an amazing amount of thought and labor to make it all work. (assuming it all does work). Anytime you hot rod a classic you are really limiting your resale to just a handful of people.

My worry is that, having the stock wheels, it's obviously got the stock diff. I would be afraid of shelling the diff pretty quickly if you got on it. It needs a narrowed and welded Ford 9" with tubs in the back. Forget about turning!

John

TRED
04-20-2012, 03:09 PM
Wow, the owner of the car didn't post anything on this site, but yet the car gets bashed. Looks like a nice car with some flames even I don't like, also looks like a car you could have a blast with, drive it anywhere and not worry about the Chev engine. Far better to drive and enjoy a car then to "dare I say it" cross the line and make it a trailer Queen. LOL

TuffTR250
04-21-2012, 11:39 AM
I'd love to have it! I have often thought about having a TR3 Rat Rod. My thoughts were to just buy a beater TR3 and just drive it as is. But this one could be a lot of fun if the engine is good. However, I would not pay $10k, but if it were for sale for $4k or $5K I'd certainly buy it and paint it with dark gray epoxy primer.
Regards,
Bob

justin_mercier
04-21-2012, 12:07 PM
Aye, honestly if the price point was about half of what they're starting it at, even I would be interested.

I've already been attacked for what I'm doing with my TR6, but, the way I feel about it is, unless you're paying for my restoration, you don't have any say in what I do with my vehicle. I'll never attack someone else for rat-rodding, or hot-rodding a car.

As far as I'm concerned someone keeping a hot-rod on the road is vastly superior than a rust-bucket in someone's back yard. That 4x4 TR3 is a good example. Many people would have scrapped it for a few hundred bucks in metal price. Far better to see it on the road and generating interest in cars from younger people than to be destroyed.

TuffTR250
04-27-2012, 04:49 PM
Looks like $10,000 was too much for the V8 TR3. Zero bidders and bidding has ended today. We'll probably see it on eBay again soon. I wonder if he will set the reserve at 10,000 again.
Regards,
Bob

George_H
04-27-2012, 08:16 PM
This car has been on ebay multiple times. It had the same results each time. No bids, 10,000 opening bid, reserve not met.

Russ Austin
04-27-2012, 10:43 PM
Here's a TR3 Tow Truck, some of you should recognize Tom Householder's TR3 Tow Truck. I've not heard from Tom in many years, he had a very basket case Francorchamps TR2.

rlrobian
04-29-2012, 05:52 AM
May not be my taste, but only from a cosmetic view. Look at the quality of the workmanship. I love seeing this kind of mechanical and engineering creativity. What we can't see from the pictures really says more than what we can see. For instance the lack of rear beading. Did that come from just bolting the rear fenders on and body filling, or are they seam welded and properly finished. Did he modify the suspension and brakes?
This car could be a blast to drive and do well in a street surviors car show, while not so well at a concours event.
At the end of the day, are you having fun?
RL

jsfbond
04-29-2012, 06:32 AM
Are there any known examples of "Targa", or "T" topped GT6's out there?

vettedog72
04-29-2012, 09:22 AM
I wonder how much wheel hop he gets? It sure looks like a fun car.

swift6
04-29-2012, 10:04 AM
Are there any known examples of "Targa", or "T" topped GT6's out there?

A good friend of mine has a GT6 that he made into a Targa topped version. It's been in storage for quite a while and will ahve to see if I can get some photos but it might be a while before I could post them. He debuted his Targa topped GT6 at the VTR in Boulder, CO in 1991. I've known him for about 17 years and have not seen it on the road but it does exist.

justin_mercier
04-29-2012, 11:16 AM
I've also seen photos of a normal spitfire with a factory hard top that was modified into a targa style top. In fact that same top inspired me to work on a factory TR6 steel hard top conversion to targa top style, however since my TR6 will no longer be able to use the top, instead I'm selling an unmolested TR6 top instead of finishing my planned conversion.

jdvintage
05-01-2012, 11:11 PM
It's not for me, however the concept is not that outrageous. Take a Sunbeam Alpine and drop in a Ford small block and you have a Sunbeam Tiger. A car that is becoming very desirable. The execution on the TR is not all that great and the paint is downright nasty! JD

Number_6
05-02-2012, 01:55 PM
It's not for me, however the concept is not that outrageous. Take a Sunbeam Alpine and drop in a Ford small block and you have a Sunbeam Tiger. A car that is becoming very desirable. The execution on the TR is not all that great and the paint is downright nasty! JD

Or there's also the AC Ace, when Bristol stopped supplying them with Bristol engines, some guy by the name of Carroll from the US got in touch with them with the crazy idea he had cooked up of putting Ford's new thin wall V8's into their cars...

poolboy
05-02-2012, 02:35 PM
Or there's also the AC Ace, when Bristol stopped supplying them with Bristol engines, some guy by the name of Carroll from the US got in touch with them with the crazy idea he had cooked up of putting Ford's new thin wall V8's into their cars...

The Ace
https://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee300/poolboy_album/ACAce.jpg
https://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee300/poolboy_album/100_0457.jpg

swift6
05-05-2012, 04:38 PM
It's not for me, however the concept is not that outrageous. Take a Sunbeam Alpine and drop in a Ford small block and you have a Sunbeam Tiger.

Actually you just have a Sunbeam Alpine with a V8, and their respective values are quite different. There is more to the difference between a Tiger and an Alpine than just the engine. Same with Triumph TR7's and Triumph TR8's. A TR7 with a V8 installed is not a TR8.

swift6
05-05-2012, 04:41 PM
It's not for me, however the concept is not that outrageous. Take a Sunbeam Alpine and drop in a Ford small block and you have a Sunbeam Tiger. A car that is becoming very desirable. The execution on the TR is not all that great and the paint is downright nasty! JD

Or there's also the AC Ace, when Bristol stopped supplying them with Bristol engines, some guy by the name of Carroll from the US got in touch with them with the crazy idea he had cooked up of putting Ford's new thin wall V8's into their cars...


Carroll wasn't as interested in the body of the Ace as he was in the Tojiero chassis underneath the body. They also made something like 26 cars that used the Ford Zephyr engine before Mr. Shelby showed up with the 260 V8.

jdvintage
05-06-2012, 08:42 PM
I am speaking of the CONCEPT of taking an under powered English sports car and retro fitting an American V8. I am well aware that the mass produced version was further developed to accommodate the V8 motor. The first two original prototypes had their V8's retro fitted for feasibility testing in less than two weeks. To me that sounds like dropping a V8 into a car that formally had a smaller engine.

Roger
05-07-2012, 08:54 AM
It's not for me, however the concept is not that outrageous. Take a Sunbeam Alpine and drop in a Ford small block and you have a Sunbeam Tiger. A car that is becoming very desirable. The execution on the TR is not all that great and the paint is downright nasty! JD

Or there's also the AC Ace, when Bristol stopped supplying them with Bristol engines, some guy by the name of Carroll from the US got in touch with them with the crazy idea he had cooked up of putting Ford's new thin wall V8's into their cars...


Carroll wasn't as interested in the body of the Ace as he was in the Tojiero chassis underneath the body. They also made something like 26 cars that used the Ford Zephyr engine before Mr. Shelby showed up with the 260 V8.

Well, the body was Tojeiro as well!

swift6
05-07-2012, 02:51 PM
Carroll wasn't as interested in the body of the Ace as he was in the Tojiero chassis underneath the body. They also made something like 26 cars that used the Ford Zephyr engine before Mr. Shelby showed up with the 260 V8.

Well, the body was Tojeiro as well!

From what he (Carroll) told me during an event at the Shelby American Collection, he didn't care about the body design so much as the chassis design.