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Bill Redd
02-24-2005, 05:18 PM
Well, the questions will begin!

Now that I've got the car back, I want to touch up a few spots on the front suspension/frame area, and am looking for suggestions as to the best brand/color to use. Didn't have the whole frame redone, as it looks like it's pretty clean. However, need to clean up under the front.

Thanks so much!

trrdster2000
02-24-2005, 07:30 PM
Bill, a good rattle can gloss black after a good cleaning. It also will be about as water proof as you are going to get it. Wayne

red_tr250
02-24-2005, 07:33 PM
Bill,

I believe a satin black would be closer to the correct color on the frame. I did POR-15 over the entire thing & then Chassis Black which would be a semi-gloss (satin) That stuff works great!

my 2 cents,

Todd

Webb Sledge
02-24-2005, 10:18 PM
I used some semi-gloss on my frame as well. It's basically tractor paint and sticks to pretty much anything. I don't recall the name though.

Alan_Myers
02-24-2005, 11:09 PM
Hi,

I've been using a variety of paints recently. I imagine you are looking for black, but here are some ideas that include a few colors, as well.

POR15 Grey, Silver and Flat Black (brush on or spray with care). These flow out really nicely even if brushed. They stick like crazy to almost anything that is oil free (but don't get it any on your skin!) and are very tough.

However, all three will discolor over time when exposed to UV light, so are really most useful as base coats or in areas that will never be exposed to light. Top coatinig these can be difficult, POR also sells an intermediate primer that I haven't tried. I don't bother trying to clean up brushes, just use cheap single use and throw them away. I've had to re-sandblast some parts coated with POR15 and it's very hard to make a dent in it! I wish it were UV-proof! It would be the perfect undercarriage paint! I've had some trouble with uneven sheen with POR15 Flat Black. It also might be called low gloss, I'm not sure... it's not super flat, Duplicolor Low Gloss is flatter, and is prone to getting some shiney spots if applied in uneven thickness, would be best sprayed but good luck getting the sprayer cleaned up afterward. It does flow very nicely off a brush or sponge type applicator. At this point, I think I'd use this as a base coat, with Chassis Coat or similar sprayed over it.

POR 15 Chassis Coat. This stuck goes over POR15 pretty well, is semi-gloss, about the same as original Triumph chassis gloss, but seems a slightly greyer color to me (or maybe it's the fluourescent lighting in my garage). It is no where near as tough as POR15. I also brushed this on and it flows pretty well, but not as well as POR15.

Duplicolor Engine Paint - Gloss Black, Low Gloss Black and Clear Gloss. These go on nicely, in general. Low Gloss is a lot less shiney than original Triumph chassis, really is a flat black, but is the best at covering flaws in the part and is easily the most durable of all the "rattle can" paints I'm using. Gloss Black looks great if applied correctly. But, it runs and sags easily, is hard to get a nice, even coat with this paint. When it's even, it's very glossy. But, a second thin coat, if not timed perfectly, gets bumpy and ends up a lower gloss, rough area. I've found a more controllable and even shine using Low Gloss as a base coat, letting it dry completely, then top coating it with Clear Gloss.

Aervoe Engine Paint in Silver, Cast Iron Grey and Gloss Black. Silver is good and durable, a moderately low gloss, almost a bright aluminum look. It gets clumpy and can be difficult to spray in colder temps. I really like the Cast Iron Grey color, using it as an accent on my TR4 (brake calipers, drums, differential, various engine covers, etc.) It looks great with both black and brighter silver. It's a little prone to runs, I had to redo one part recently. It's durable when dry. Aervoe Gloss Black is not quite as glossy as Duplicolor, which can look almost "wet" or "plasticky".

Note, all engine paints are heat resistant to a point, generally unaffected by oil or grease, but can be damaged by brake fluid. They also dry quickly, to the touch in 10 minutes, relatively safe to reassemble overnight. But, if doing multiple coats the 2nd one needs to be reshot within an hour of the first, or you have to wait 72 hours, or lifting may occur.

I recently tried the new "Plastic Paint" from Krylon, specifically formulated for use on plastic parts. It goes on really nice and looks great, has a nice gloss, not overly shiney. We'll see how durable it is and if it really works on plastic parts. Limited color selection at local stores, though.

Eastwood Co. offers some specialized paints I'd like to try. One is Satin Finish Clear engine paint. There are times the Gloss Clear from Duplicolor looks too shiney, But, using it directly a rougher surface tones it down nicely, such as a cast aluminum part like a clutch slave cylinder. I expect to use the Duplicolor Clear Gloss on the OD and gearbox, too. They also have their own "Chassis Black" paint to brush on or in rattle cans. Also, they offer a black radiator paint that has extra pigmentation, gives thorough coverage with a thin coat of paint. I'm going to try it on some cameras, as well as radiators!

Cheers!

Alan

Bill Redd
02-25-2005, 01:10 AM
Thanks folks, for all of the suggestions.

Alan, it sounds like you've had a bit of experience doing this stuff!

I think the durable rattle cans would be the easiest, and hopefully last for awhile. Here in Central Cal, we're lucky... rust is not the problem that it is elsewhere!

sammyb
02-25-2005, 05:43 PM
Bill,

Triumph was notorious for using whatever they could to paint frames. The standard frame paint was cheap flat black (or at least was dull and flat by the time it got across the ocean!)

The painters often ran out of frame paint, and would use body paint for the frames, especially in the TR2-TR4 era. It happened all the way through TR6 production, although not nearly as frequently. Every few years you'll see a green, blue, red or white frame -- usually on a project or parts car.

This being said, the frame looks best in a gloss black, and since the frame was never smooth, you can use spray cans to get good coverage.

trrdster2000
02-26-2005, 10:36 PM
Bill, you can see by the multitude of answers, we all have a way to do about anything and I have even changed my way to someone elses, just because it sounded like it would work better, (hate to admit that). Now, about the paint, just to throw in a bit of wisdom of myth, I have always heard that any flat or semi-flat paint has some chalk in it to make it dull and as chalk holds water I sure don't want any of it on my frame or anything under the car. Wayne