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brgrmyster
02-12-2012, 05:08 PM
Hi Gents,
Anyone out there with a 67-69 GT6 Mk1 or Mk2 with the original luggage floor panels? I believe they were a hardboard (like a masonite)and certainly not a plywood, painted flat black. The question is 1/4" or 1/2" thickness. I'm concerned that 1/4" may not have enough rigidity.

Can anyone help?

Regards,
Jeff

DNK
02-12-2012, 05:44 PM
If it's like the TR6 and the Wedgy, 1/4

3798j
02-12-2012, 07:45 PM
I know they're not 1/2" thick. I'll measure tomorrow and let you know - my guess, 1/4".

Andrew Mace
02-12-2012, 08:23 PM
I get about .35" from a parts car in the yard, but I'll be curious to see measurements from those whose original boards might have been better protected from the elements over the years! :wink:

Edit: By the way, I used my new HF digital calipers to take the measurement.

Gliderman8
02-12-2012, 08:58 PM
I just went out to the garage and measured the thickness of an original TR6 floor panel and it measures .25"

edit: By the way, I used calipers to take the measurement.

DNK
02-12-2012, 10:39 PM
Andy-.10 for swellness, eh?

Andrew Mace
02-12-2012, 11:21 PM
Andy-.10 for swellness, eh? Well, that's what I'm a bit worried about, Don! :laugh: Actually, I'd have measured the "good" car, but it's too deep in the cold, dark barn to get to it tonight!

3798j
02-13-2012, 06:20 PM
Andy-.10 for swellness, eh? Well, that's what I'm a bit worried about, Don! :laugh: Actually, I'd have measured the "good" car, but it's too deep in the cold, dark barn to get to it tonight!
Andy, your concern on Don's comment may be correct. That .10" may have been "swellness". Although my caliper isn't digital, the masonite (or whatever Triumph would have called it) was dead on at .25" thickness.

Gliderman8
02-13-2012, 07:07 PM
Although my caliper isn't digital, the masonite (or whatever Triumph would have called it) was dead on at .25" thickness.

:yesnod: my analog caliper got the same reading :yesnod:

TR6BobNF
02-13-2012, 07:49 PM
My near mint set from a '69 or '70 GT6+ measured 5/16" with a tape and appears to be of plywood construction. It is definitely not a "masonite" board and has the look and feel of plywood, finished in black and consisting of three layers and having what appear to be factory installed "grommets" and a couple of felt pads and finished finger hole for pulling it up. Digital caliper must have gotten too cold for the battery in the garage and first read .25 but was then all over the scale from .125 to .325. I'm claiming 5/16" even if swellness is involved.

DNK
02-13-2012, 07:52 PM
Just to be different, eh Bob?
It's that Newfie in ya!

TR6BobNF
02-13-2012, 08:33 PM
Nope - just "swellness".

ArcticOne
02-13-2012, 09:07 PM
Definitely not plywood on my 68 GT6. Looks like hardboard.

brgrmyster
02-13-2012, 09:08 PM
Thanks Men.

1/4 inch it is. I'll look for a nice birch veneer ply to spray flat black. Meanwhile, stay tuned for a stumper of a question regarding the luggage angle assembly and support!

Thanks,
Jeff

PeterK
02-14-2012, 09:31 AM
Look for baltic birch if you're using plywood. BB is solid core, no voids.

BTW I have two 3x3 pieces of what looks to be close to the original masonite. It's actually green and was used to crate my wood furnace from Canada. I plan to use one to make a new trunk board for my 4A.

If I didn't have this, I too would use ply with a wood sealer first then I would roll on black with one of the little smooth rollers.

Andrew Mace
02-14-2012, 10:28 AM
Andy-.10 for swellness, eh? Well, that's what I'm a bit worried about, Don! :laugh: Actually, I'd have measured the "good" car, but it's too deep in the cold, dark barn to get to it tonight!
Andy, your concern on Don's comment may be correct. That .10" may have been "swellness". Although my caliper isn't digital, the masonite (or whatever Triumph would have called it) was dead on at .25" thickness. ...and, as it turns out, the one I measured indeed was "swell[ed]" (ok, swollen)! Sorry 'bout that! I got a chance last night to measure the board in my '70, and that came right in at .25" on the digital caliper! Apologies for any and all confusion stemming from my previous comments (unless the early boards were thicker, but I kinda doubt that)! :blush:

Gliderman8
02-14-2012, 10:31 AM
That's swell Andy :smile:

Andrew Mace
02-14-2012, 11:37 AM
Go to your room, Elliot! :laugh:

brgrmyster
02-18-2012, 06:15 PM
Hey Andy and JOhn B (and anyone else with an original GT6 Mk1),

I envy your guys with original cars...you have all the answers. Two more questions regarding the luggage floor arrangement. Up front of the luggage floor is a luggage angle support bar ("L" shaped), supported buy a short verticle support. Canley Classics shows it with the "L" pointing downward toward the floor. My PO had it installed with the "L" up, creating a lip to catch luggage that shifted forward? Up or down if you know? I tend to trust Canley. SEcondarily, is it your opinion this piece and the short vertical were always trimmed in black vinyl, irrespective of carpet, panel, and seat cover? I'm assuming these pieces were not custom trimmed to match a matador red carpet and seats, for example. I assume they were always black like the door capping strip?

Many thanks guys,
Jeff

3798j
02-19-2012, 10:28 AM
Here are some shots of mine - KC13000L. Have seen a number of other Mk1's that look the same as this.

https://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr268/3798j/Triumph%20GT6/IMGP0105.jpg

https://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr268/3798j/Triumph%20GT6/IMGP0106.jpg

https://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr268/3798j/Triumph%20GT6/IMGP0108.jpg

brgrmyster
02-19-2012, 11:55 AM
No doubt in these photos the "L" shaped lip is up, contrary to the Canley Classics plate! Just as the Philadelphia Flyers have a goalie controversy, it looks like I've created a luggage angle support controversy!!

Anyone else care to weigh in?

Regards,
Jeff

ArcticOne
02-19-2012, 12:14 PM
Posted some pics from the Owner's Handbook and John Thomason's A Guide to Originality.

Owner's Handbook could be read to show it pointing down, while Thomason's book shows it pointing up.

Also, one of the books I have, quote the luggage boards as being 'millboard'. Not a wood person so not sure precisely what that means.

jb

3798j
02-19-2012, 12:24 PM
This might help, it's a photo is from the book "Triumph Spitfire and GT6" by Graham Robinson (1982 printing).

https://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr268/3798j/Triumph%20GT6/IMGP0113.jpg

3798j
02-19-2012, 03:27 PM
Got more curious, so...Dug out some old magazines with road tests on the mk1's and took some photos of their photos.

https://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr268/3798j/Triumph%20GT6/IMGP0128.jpg

https://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr268/3798j/Triumph%20GT6/IMGP0127.jpg

https://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr268/3798j/Triumph%20GT6/IMGP0129.jpg

https://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr268/3798j/Triumph%20GT6/IMGP0118.jpg

https://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr268/3798j/Triumph%20GT6/IMGP0115.jpg

https://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr268/3798j/Triumph%20GT6/IMGP0114.jpg

https://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr268/3798j/Triumph%20GT6/IMGP0116.jpg

All appear to show "the lip".

Andrew Mace
02-19-2012, 06:47 PM
Up front of the luggage floor is a luggage angle support bar ("L" shaped), supported buy a short verticle support. Canley Classics shows it with the "L" pointing downward toward the floor. My PO had it installed with the "L" up, creating a lip to catch luggage that shifted forward? Up or down if you know? I tend to trust Canley.So do I! However, one can't "blame" this on Canley, as they only re-use original factory Spare Parts Catalogue drawings in their online catalogue. Often those catalogue drawings date from the earliest versions of any given part or assembly (possibly even pre-production in some cases), and just as often the drawings are not updated as parts change. It's something we long-time Triumph owners (old-timers, if you will) have gotten used to! :laugh:

brgrmyster
02-20-2012, 10:12 AM
Controversy unwound from my standpoint. These show conclusively the L was up for a lip, and also that it was covered to match the seats and door panels (note the contrast to the carpet and corresponding match with the seats in some photos.) Great stuff that you had this dated original documentation.

Many thanks. I'll stop obsessing now!

Jeff