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UmmYeahOk
10-06-2009, 04:57 PM
https://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-GT6-...=item35a4023aa6 (https://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-GT6-Restored-Nice_W0QQitemZ230384876198QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Ca rs_Trucks?hash=item35a4023aa6)


Found in eBay Motors->Cars and Trucks
Title: 1969 Triumph Overdrive
Subtitle: 1969 GT6 Restored Nice

Currently at $200, no reserve, deposit of US $500.00 within 48 hours of auction close.

No pictures

Description: 1969 gt6 restored nice. Pictures and description to come.

All the details like exterior and interior color make it sound like an honest to goodness car.

Just cant see something like that go for so little, but will if the seller doesnt even care enough to list it with pictures and discription. I know he said hes going to, but he paid for a 7 day listing. Hes already lost 2 days that he paid for.

TOC
10-06-2009, 07:17 PM
I looked, no photos.
ALMOST......."gee, now that I have divorced your lazy butt, I'm going to sell your Triumph for what you told me you paid for it!"

GBRandy
10-06-2009, 07:22 PM
Careful with these "pictures to come" then "new lower reserve", etc etc.....

Usually not the most honest eBayer's..... Just my 2 cents.

TonyPanchot
10-06-2009, 09:45 PM
I agree this seems too good to be true
I sent seller an email requesting the pics
lets see what happens

UmmYeahOk
10-06-2009, 10:29 PM
Wonder if hed be willing to show me the car in person. Clearly if they say no, its a scam. Its too far of a drive for it to be a "maybe." But if it were a restored 69, which Im assuming means that its capable of driving from Austin to Dallas, its worth it sight unseen...

...its just that my first opinion of people tend to be that they are stupid, not scam artists. Then again, such scammers tend to pretend to be so to bait victims. The other thing is, scammers tend to try a little harder. In other words, steal pics from GT6.com, claim thats the car, then offer a more reasonable, ridiculous price like $5,000. Maybe even $3000 to get people biting. Of course if theres escrow involved, thats an obvious red flag. But when youre dealing with prices that low, youre risking a buyer wanting to pay cash in person. Heck, my gt6 was an ebay item. Didnt make reserve so I made him an offer and did just that.

Of course isnt it odd how after I made this thread and linked to it, there are now 4 different bidders, bidding on it? ...right after the threads first reply too... ...you guys suck =P

Number_6
10-07-2009, 04:35 PM
I guess it's just me, but I think if I were to auction a car I would have some pics & description ready before I started the auction so that I could put them in the auction from the start.
I checked the auction ... 6 bids? Who would bid on a car without even seeing a single pic of the car?

UmmYeahOk
10-07-2009, 05:45 PM
I guess it's just me, but I think if I were to auction a car I would have some pics & description ready before I started the auction so that I could put them in the auction from the start.

No, its not just you. I found this very odd as well, thats why I made this thread.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:]I checked the auction ... 6 bids? Who would bid on a car without even seeing a single pic of the car? [/QUOTE]

6 bids, 5 bidders... ...what kind of ebay newb bids 5 days before the auction ends. I would suspect that either they are new to the auction scene, or are bidding the price higher on purpose to make the auction look legit, and not pay for a reserve... ...but so many of these bidders have a lot of feedback.

Again, $510 is worth it sight unseen... ...but only if its TRULY a RESTORED 69 GT6

LBCs_since_1988
10-07-2009, 07:14 PM
SCAM!!! look at all the recent negative feedback. Maybe someone stole his/her password and is using their identity for some quick cash. -happens all the time on eBay. BUYER BEWARE! :nonono:

UmmYeahOk
10-07-2009, 09:22 PM
Possibly but the first 4 recent ones were all from the same person, all of which are duplicate responses. If you look at the auctions he bought from it seems very strange that one single buyer would spend so much on so many items from the same user. I can understand combined shipping, but what is this guy? A sunglasses reseller? Looks like much of his buyers do the same.

I dont see 4 negative feedback. I see 1. He bought a lot, but hes still one customer, and most likely one shipment. I still wouldnt consider this a guy worth messing with (he still hasnt responded to my question about if its capable of driving to Dallas). Plus this seems to be his first automotive sale. Hes real big with sun glasses sales.

10-07-2009, 11:59 PM
Actually, of the 5 people bidding, only two are newbies; the other three should know better. It's hard to tell any more what these people are thinking, both buyers and sellers.

People just walk away from their bids. I hate to see this happen to eBay, as they are a great buying/selling venue.

My ex and I probably bought and sold 10,000 items on eBay. Since moving to TX, I bought a boat and a TR on eBay. Towed the boat back from Michigan. The TR fell thru; the guy turned out to be a shyster in Ohio. Would not allow a Triumph friend come inspect the car until the auction was closed. I retracted my bid.

'Sorry for getting off on this tangent. Obviously, when buying ANYTHING off the INTERNET, ANYWHERE, Buyer Beware. Caveat Emptor. Lave sus manos.

UmmYeahOk
10-09-2009, 09:46 PM
I used to sell on ebay and you would not believe how annoying people are. About 35% of my auctions were never paid for. I got my only negative feedback (thankfully Im back to 100%) because the buyer thought I ripped her off on shipping. Ive had people get made at me because they wouldnt include apartment numbers on their shipping address. Luckily these items were cheap enough that I would just resend a new item. Then I had the morons who would bid just to win. I would have buy it now for like $10, and immediately post up new stuff with buy it nows when the auction ended, and people sometimes would bid up to $60 for these things. Then of course when they get it in the mail theyre upset. No crap. If I paid $60 for a $10 item, I would be too. I swear, if I auctioned off a brick, and it closed at $100k, theyd expect me to ship a house! Then there were bidders thats just bid to make buyers pay more. These I worried about because I had one who did this for many of my auction and he never won, ever. I was worried people may think he was me and I was having him bid it up so Id make a bigger profit. His bids always canceled my buy it nows.

Anyway seems that the auction ended early. He cancled all bids. But now you can see how much everyone was willing to spend
https://offer.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&amp;item=230384876198
Two separate people proxy bidded $1000!

poolboy
10-09-2009, 10:17 PM
I've bought and sold a couple hundred items on ebay, mostly photograhic items, firearm accessories and of course car parts. I only had one jerk to deal with.
No diappointments on my part because if something needs clarification, I ask before I bid.
I try to take decent pictures, concise descriptions and charge a reasonalbe flat rate shipping to keep it up front and simple.
I love doing business on ebay.

UmmYeahOk
10-12-2009, 09:14 PM
Its back.

https://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Triumph-1...5fCarsQ5fTrucks (https://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Triumph-1969-Gt6-restored-beautiful_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem35a41fb904QQi temZ230386809092QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks)

Beautiful car... ...hes still a moron though for the last auction. I would of spent $200-500 sight unseen, sure... ...too bad he never got back with me on whether or not it could be driven to dallas. Maybe he was too busy getting his pictures and description ready.

Then again maybe theres some sort of story where someones forcing him to sell his car, didnt want to, but at least he could say he listed it so theyd leave him alone. Then again, there was no reserve on it, but now there is

poolboy
10-12-2009, 09:21 PM
:nonono: No..he'd be a moron if he did sell the car for 2 to 5 hundred dollars.

Number_6
10-13-2009, 12:03 AM
Now that we can see pics &amp; a desc. of the car, that is a very nice looking GT6. Wonder what his reserve is? Well worth the current $6K bid Plus a lot more.

UmmYeahOk
10-13-2009, 12:36 PM
:nonono: No..he'd be a moron if he did sell the car for 2 to 5 hundred dollars.

No, that would be his punishment for being a moron. He ended this thing a day early. Imagine if you will if he had a medical emergency, or someone died. Basically preventing him from being on the Internet that day. He can't cancle the auction, and someone wins. That's a binding contract. Now clearly he doesn't care about negative feedback, and even if he did I supose it's worth taking the hit to keep the car.

But I'm pretty sure ending the auction early results in full seller fees. Otherwise why have a reserve? With no pics or description I'm surprised it got that high. Had he just done those two things to begin with, not only would it be just as high, but probably make the reserve he set without even needing a reserve.

poolboy
10-13-2009, 01:13 PM
I won't speculate on your speculations, but here are some facts about ending a listing early.
https://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/end_early.html

tdskip
10-13-2009, 01:33 PM
Gosh - lot of angst over what amounts to our collective play shopping. It's his car, he can do whatever the heck he wants. So be it...

UmmYeahOk
10-13-2009, 01:37 PM
So yeah, he will be charged a fee. And I'm pretty sure this was done before the 12 hours. I knew seller who used to always do this to avoid selling to low and not pay for a reserve. I am a sniper so this was very annoying. It is also against eBay policy. I wish I knew back then because I would have reported it. Clearly this gt6 person isn't doing the same since it looks like this was the first time and he has a reserve on this one

tomgt6
10-13-2009, 04:22 PM
If you thought that car was not going to sell take a look at this one.

https://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Two-1970-Triumph-GT-6-cars_W0QQitemZ160369526837QQ

UmmYeahOk
10-23-2009, 10:40 PM
So it went for $11,202. What would you say the market for a non-concourse, zero rust, well documented frame off restoration gt6 be? And what the difference between mk1,2 and 3? It seems that everyone selling a mk2 claims that they are the most sought out after and rarest, no one seems to act like mk1s and mk3s are special. Why?

tomgt6
10-24-2009, 09:27 AM
When I bought I wanted a mk2 because of the rotoflex, no pollution stuff do deal with, like the back end and lines better then a mk3, the rear vent, hood vents, high back seats, dash looked cleaner, and from what I understood as well it handled a bit better with the rotoflex back end (not sure that is true).

But then my son really wants a mk1. Why because he likes the older look.

Andrew Mace
10-24-2009, 06:18 PM
I bought my 1970 GT6+ used in 1975 because....

a. it was available
b. I had the money at the time
c. I always kinda liked the almost extremely busy details of the round-tail body with lights stuck on everywhere! :wink:

I bought a 1972 GT6 Mk3 around 1981 because....

a. it was available
b. I had the money at the time
c. I always kinda liked the clean look of the square-tail body :wink:

If I could, I'd own a "Mk1" today, because I also really like the look of the early car with the low front bumper.

As for handling, they're all good in their own right, although many folks might be happier with either a camber compensator or a rear swing-spring conversion on a "Mk1"! My two above were both "roto-flex" and were very good handlers indeed, the 1970 also benefitting greatly from Koni shocks. The last of the Mk3s (1973) had the swing-spring already and were still quite good handlers.

It's really all what you like in terms of styling...and any of the three can be upgraded to pretty much whatever you want.