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swift6
02-24-2009, 01:32 PM
We had an interesting Abarth Sports Racer come through town last night. The owners are friends of some local club members. It is reportably #1 of 10 produced (12 planned). It recently visited #2 in Iowa for comparisons.

https://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/sloseke/P2240002.jpg

https://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/sloseke/P2240003.jpg

Mickey Richaud
02-24-2009, 03:02 PM
Neat design! Thought it might be based on an 850 Spider, but looks like exhaust aft of the front wheels. Fiat 1200?

swift6
02-24-2009, 04:17 PM
You know, I'm not sure what powers it. Didn't get to talk to them much as they were getting ready to pull out for the left coast as I arrived. I did catch the the body designer was Michelotti.

Mickey Richaud
02-25-2009, 09:56 AM
Whatever it is, it's small, to fit on that trailer. I like it!

theleisure
02-27-2009, 02:50 PM
here's a link to another car like that at the pittsburgh vintage grand prix. i know it's there at 3:39 and probably other times.

pvgp video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DOZoOly2xQ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DOZoOly2xQ

Michael Oritt
02-27-2009, 10:02 PM
Go to the end at about 8:00 where I lock the right front brake while being chased by Manley Ford going into the descending serpentines. I remember that as an attention-getting moment. Can't wait till July for another dose!

aeronca65t
02-28-2009, 07:26 AM
I had Linda watch this video last night.

I said,"<span style="text-decoration: underline">That</span> is what I want to do!"

Hope, hope......

How did you register for the Sheneley Park event? (I know VRG only runs the BeaveRun event). VSCCA?

abarth69
02-28-2009, 08:28 AM
That's a Abarth 207-A Spider Corsa with a Boano body. Whether ten or twelve Abarth207/a were built a large percentage of them still exist today seven or eight. These cars were obsolete the day they left the factory outclassed in the 1100cc/g modified class by the Lotus Nine and even more so by the Lotus Eleven. The Abarth Spider were beautiful but beauty dosen't win races and the Abarth modified Fiat 1100 engine at 66Hp just didn't produce enough power for the car.

Cheers

Mark

dougie
02-28-2009, 11:59 AM
Go to the end at about 8:00 where I lock the right front brake while being chased by Manley Ford going into the descending serpentines. I remember that as an attention-getting moment. Can't wait till July for another dose!

Michael,

I've always heard that this race was fun, but I must say most people looked like they were just taking a leisurely drive through the park. It was nice to see you were actually participating in a "race". I would like to see an in car film of this race to convince me it's not just multiple parade laps.

aeronca65t
02-28-2009, 01:34 PM
dougie:

I'd agree that some of the cars look slow. Part of that may the fact that they're pre-war cars and *are* slow! :jester:

But also, the various "stuff" that you can hit (stone walls, trees, etc) is probably more intimidating than a regular track.

And some of the cars are truly valuable....that probably has an effect.

But check out Stefan Vapaa's vids from his Foruma S and his Dad's Sonett "roadster".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmuBBxX01Vo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz2w_ajC-G0

Stefan's web site with more vids is here:

https://www.at-speed.com/apex.html

Michael Oritt
02-28-2009, 05:46 PM
Dougie--

As you probably know this event is run on streets through a park and some of the turns are extremely tight as shown in that video--I ran a 4.88 diff last year which was perfect for me whereas normally I use either a 4.2 or 4.5.

At the driver's meeting they make the announcement to run at 7/10's max and perhaps some folks do but I and a couple of other fellows in my group were racing pretty hard, though there are still some places where I held back--the roads are all crowned in the middle and the granite walls are very close in.

I have footage from last year and will be working on it Monday--if I can get it onto YouTube I'll let you know and I think you'll see that it IS a race. Or send me a PM with your address and I will burn a CD and send it to you. BTW a Healey would be alot to push around Schenley--the course really favors small, nimble cars and TD's are usually fastest simply because they turn so sharply.

dougie
02-28-2009, 10:28 PM
Neils,

As I thought the race looks completely different from behind the wheel. In fact it looks flat out insane. I really respect you guys when you can run hard on a street/park track like that. I can see why there's so many light weight racers in the grid. My big Healey would really be a pig on that course, another reason to add a bugeye racer to the garage.

JPSmit
02-28-2009, 11:21 PM
at 4:02 and again at 4:10 there is a baby blue convertible wit eyes turning the corner - I don't recognize the car - can someone enlighten me?

aeronca65t
03-01-2009, 04:00 AM
It's a Panhard Dyna Jr.

https://files.conceptcarz.com/img/Panhard/55-Panhard_Dyna_DV-07_PVGP_07.jpg

The somewhat similar-looking blue coupe is a BMW 700.

Michael Oritt
03-02-2009, 04:28 PM
I've always heard that this race was fun, but I must say most people looked like they were just taking a leisurely drive through the park. It was nice to see you were actually participating in a "race". I would like to see an in car film of this race to convince me it's not just multiple parade laps.
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Dougie--

Here are a couple of minutes from Saturday's qualifier last year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yp8MwFF9i8

Manley Ford is driving the fast MGTD #776--we swapped back and forth several times. I am pretty sure he was racing--I know I was!

swift6
03-02-2009, 05:34 PM
Hey what happened to my thread! :jester:

bgbassplyr
03-02-2009, 07:49 PM
Hi-jacked!

dougie
03-02-2009, 09:59 PM
Sorry about the thread.................racers like to talk racing most of all.

Michael the TD is surprisingly nimbly with great acceleration out of the turns.
With all the blind corners and zero FIA curbing, you really have be in control entering each turn. I would hate to see what happens when "you get it wrong".

Nice film!

Dougie