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GBRandy
10-11-2008, 08:43 AM
I am new...but not new to MG's & Triumphs. I am on quest for a TR3. Buying a completed one is possible, but the idea of recovering one from the graveyard has me intrigued.

My first question.....what resources are required reading for the mentally disturbed people like me that want to restore a TR3?

I am looking for on-line links, magazines, repair manuals, etc....any help in compiling my list would be most appreciated.

Be well,

Randy

Mickey Richaud
10-11-2008, 08:49 AM
Hey, Randy -

If you can get your hands on Bill Piggott's book, <span style="font-style: italic"> Original Triumph TR3 </span> , you'll find all you need to know about them. Not a restoration manual, but THE resource for originality, and the pictures are invaluable for putting back all the pieces that previous owners "improved" upon, as well as their proper placement.

It may be easier to find his earlier book, <span style="font-style: italic"> Original Triumph TR </span> , which covers the 2's through 6's, but not as complete.

Aside from that, the catalogs from Moss, VB and the older Roadster Factory books are helpful as well. I may have some stuff left over from my restoration - will look later today.

Best,
Mickey

GBRandy
10-11-2008, 08:55 AM
Excellent, thanks!

Anyone else know if a repair specific book exists? You know like a "Haynes" manual or "How To Rebuild a TR3 for Dummies?" :smile: Or something similar I guess :wink:

Mickey Richaud
10-11-2008, 08:57 AM
Oh, yeah - you'll need this (https://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=TR3+Shop+Manual&amp;cid=2213153079251756366# ps-sellers) as well. The "official" one.

Don Elliott
10-11-2008, 09:11 AM
You need to buy "How to Restore Triumph TR2, TR3, TR3A" by Roger Williams. It costs about $50.00.

Bill Piggott's book "Original TR2, TR3, TR3A" is hard to find. It's excellent and if you're lucky you may find one on e-bay for $500.00.

Ask all you tech questions on this Forum.

Mickey Richaud
10-11-2008, 09:18 AM
You need to buy "How to Restore Triumph TR2, TR3, TR3A" by Roger Williams. It costs about $50.00.

Bill Piggott's book "Original TR2, TR3, TR3A" is hard to find. It's excellent and if you're lucky you may find one on e-bay for $500.00.

Ask all you tech questions on this Forum.




Several on Amazon now...

GBRandy
10-11-2008, 09:58 AM
Bill Piggott's book "Original TR2, TR3, TR3A" is hard to find. It's excellent and if you're lucky you may find one on e-bay for $500.00.

:eeek: :eeek:

Tinkerman
10-11-2008, 11:08 AM
Lots of stuff on the internet.

Tinkerman

martx-5
10-11-2008, 12:23 PM
You need to buy "How to Restore Triumph TR2, TR3, TR3A" by Roger Williams. It costs about $50.00.




This book is probably the most important resource you can get when restoring a TR3. It is incredibly detailed and covers every aspect of a restoration. I paid $30 at Barnes &amp; Noble, but that was about three years ago. Whatever the cost, it's worth every penny.

Don Elliott
10-11-2008, 12:32 PM
The one I checked on Amazon is the first book on the "Original . . ." by Bill. This is the one that covers all TRs from TR2 to TR6. The book he wrote excusively for the sidescreen TRs is hard to find. At any price.

Bill told me that they printed just so many and no more. They underestimated the market. If everyone who has a sidescreen TR bought one, then they would have printed an adequate supply.

What they hadn't planned on, was that every guy who ever had a sidescreen TR in his youth and then sold it, also bought a copy of that book because he loved his TR so much, but then sold it - he now had the book to kindle his memories.

If you think that a sidescreen owner today wants a copy of this book and he is the 10th owner, then there may be 9 previous owners who have this momorable nostalgic volume on his bookshelf in his living room.

Lou Metelko
10-11-2008, 12:52 PM
Without doubt the best place for information on the side screen cars is at Triumph Register of America's web site - www.triumphregister.com (https://www.triumphregister.com) Once there go to the "News &amp; Events" tab - scroll to the bottom and down load the "Restoration &amp; Concours Guidelines". I don't understand how a person can correctly restore a TR2 or 3 without a copy.

Careful of Roger Williams "How to Restore...". Many of his recommendations will ruin originality. But that "discussion" rages quite often here on the list!!

Lou Metelko
Auburn, Indiana

NickMorgan
10-11-2008, 03:16 PM
Bill Piggott's book "Original TR2, TR3, TR3A" is hard to find. It's excellent and if you're lucky you may find one on e-bay for $500.00.

:eeek: :eeek:

Don't worry about that. If you need a picture of the little nut that holds together the wee bracket that is located behind the glove box, or which order the washers and rubber seals go in just ask on here. You will soon see just the picture you need, with a description of how to best fit the parts.

mrv8q
10-11-2008, 06:27 PM
You're in luck.... some of them are on sale at the Roadster Factory;
https://www.zeni.net/trf/specials5.32/
(NFI) If you're going to do any restoration of a TR3, you'll be there often.....
Good luck w/ your quest!

apbos
10-11-2008, 08:25 PM
You can read a bit of the Williams' book and look a the table of contents @ Google Books (https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&amp;id=6gtE4XMPODgC&amp;dq=Restore+Triumph+Tr2 +williams&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;source=web&amp;ots=JECth R4NUp&amp;sig=NLxErlWONWcVdbSrB_fWy7Gf72o&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book _result&amp;resnum=1&amp;ct=result#PPA10,M1) It can be found on evilbay with free shipping a good price.

Paul

DougF
10-12-2008, 01:03 AM
I'm sure you have heard this advice before. Buy the best car you can afford. If you want to restore one, mechanicals are much cheaper and easier to buy. Solid bodies over bad drive trains.

GBRandy
10-13-2008, 09:00 PM
OK....how is this for a list then? What do I need to add / delete?

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Human Interaction:
You Local Club ( I belong here.... FoxCities BritishCC (https://www.foxbrits.com/forum/index.php) )


Reference:
Bill Piggott's - Original Triumph TR3
Bill Piggott's - Original Triumph TR

Roger Williams - How to Restore Triumph TR2, TR3, TR3A


Manuals
TR2 - TR3 Workshop Manual
Haynes TR2, 3 &amp; 4 Manual

Parts
Victoria British (my least favorite of the bunch BTW)
Roadster Factory
Moss Motors
Rimmer Brothers

Online:
TRA: https://www.triumphregister.com/
VTR: https://www.vtr.org/

Andrew Mace
10-13-2008, 09:16 PM
I would add on "indented bullet point" under your last category:

JOIN TRA and/or VTR, and JOIN a local chapter. Sure, online resources are great, books are great, parts catalogues are great. But despite the instant gratification of the Internet, there's still nothing that beats the collective experience of both national and local groups.

If nothing else, you might save the trouble of bashing your knuckles, then stumbling around to find your digital camera or camera phone to take a picture to post to this or some other Internet forum...with a simple phone call to a fellow club member who might just be able to drop by, pop up the hood and say "Oh, you've got the choke linkage on the wrong side of the carb jet...."

Meanwhile, you might add the TR Register (UK) (https://www.tr-register.co.uk/) to that "Online" list...and you might even consider joining. Expensive outside the UK, and not all membership benefits are available unless you're there in the UK, but the magazine is great, the expertise and dedication is equally great, and you might even be able to get one of their "Technicalities" CD compilations of tech. articles from past magazines.

GBRandy
10-13-2008, 09:40 PM
^^^^^^^ Good Points ^^^^^^^

It is after all, the comeratory that is the most fun with these cars.... no? :yesnod:

apbos
10-13-2008, 11:19 PM
Do Not Forget. Support our BCF vendors! https://www.theautoist.com/ etc... You'll save on your Moss and VB items.

Paul

Andrew Mace
10-14-2008, 08:36 AM
^^^^^^^ Good Points ^^^^^^^

It is after all, the comeratory that is the most fun with these cars.... no? :yesnod: I assume you meant "camaraderie" (don't feel badly; I had to look it up myself to make sure of the spelling). But yes, that <span style="font-style: italic">is</span> the most fun with these cars! Heck, even if you end up joining a local muscle car or hot rod club (should there be no Triumph or British car club in your area), it still pays off. In recent years, I've attended any number of "cruise-in" events with my Herald sedan, and I've found that the owners of the fat-fender rods, antique Studebaker pickup trucks and Hemi Cudas seem to appreciate all the other cars there as much as I do, and they're just as willing and able to offer help and advice.

Bainesy
08-05-2011, 07:23 PM
I'm in the planning stage of a '59 TR3a project and just ordered a copy of Williams' "How To Restore Triumph TR2-4a". I'm not going to pay $200-plus for a used copy of Piggott's much-sought-after book unless absolutely necessary. I was wondering if anyone had ever picked up a copy of Williams' "How To Improve Triumph TR2-4a" and what they though of it? I am going to keep the car fairly stock, but it isn't going to be a true "restoration" as I now understand that term to mean (apologies to my Dad and other purists!).

Thanks in advance.

TR4nut
08-05-2011, 08:40 PM
welcome to the forum - I think both Williams books are decent, it just might give you some ideas. And you can get Piggotts for a lot less, just look for his latest book which combines all the previous TR books. But of course it is your money vs enjoyment issue, I happen to like to grab these books when I get them for a decent price.

Jim_Stevens
08-05-2011, 08:49 PM
Hmmmmmmmm. I think I have all of them, but haven't looked at them in years. Mostly to check out colors, what was painted what or orientation on the originals. Night-stand dreaming material. I have a '59 TR-3A also, and unless you are totally anal about restoration to original (sounds like you're not) or are seeking a concourse competition, no need. I think if we had long-door TR-2s, that'd be different. I mean, there were tens of thousands of our cars produced... That being said, nothing I've done can't be reversed (electric fan, rack and pinion) by the next owner.

On the other hand, my Triumph Service Manual (a red hardbound book from the factory) is falling apart, torn, dirty, and greasy. But-- Absolutely the one book you want, or a reprint thereof. Very well written, too, in the King's English. Tells you the procedure to follow to do everything. Especially useful to have the Moss catalog page open to what you're working on at the time.

That being said, working on these cars is simple, but not easy. For example, the manual will tell you to remove the three so-and-so bolts-- simple enough to follow, but chances are that one of them will be frozen or will just shear off in your socket--i.e., the "not easy."

Between that manual, the TRF and Moss catalogs, and this forum, you don't need much else. Oh, and a checkbook. Best of luck!! Jim