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DNK
02-11-2008, 07:38 PM
There is a 60 or 80 Z that has been sitting by the side of the road next to a farmer's field with no houses close.The car has no wheels and looks like it was stolen and then abandoned. It has been there a LONG time. I noticed today as I went that direction that the drums are the Alfin version. Didn't I read and hear they can be fit to the 6?

6parts
02-11-2008, 08:37 PM
Yes, they can be used on a TR6, The center hole needs to be enlarge a bit, to work.

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Brosky
02-11-2008, 08:39 PM
Wheel bolt pattern is the same, so why not? Are they the same width? I'd bring a few home to try them.

Don, I love my new Alfins. A little aluminum cleaner and a quick trip over the lathe on the inside and those drums will be standing tall!

DNK
02-11-2008, 09:13 PM
Need to get a hold of the Sheriff department to find out the situation on the car.

tr6lover
02-11-2008, 09:15 PM
hey guys, the drums sold by the roadster factory are z drums. paul those that you have are the z car drums, they just take them and enlarge the center.
Randy

Brosky
02-11-2008, 09:43 PM
There ya go, Don!

Sounds to me like you need a jack, not a sheriff!!

Opa
02-11-2008, 10:22 PM
the edge where the backing plate runs should be undercut as well.Some will rub when cornering.I think i took out about 40 thou or so.Just put on a new set from trf this winter which I picked up in Laughlin Triumphest.My first set were off of '76 Z

Don Elliott
02-11-2008, 11:06 PM
My 1958 TR3A still has the 10" cast iron drums that came with the car 50 years ago. What diameter are these Alfin drums ?

Opa
02-11-2008, 11:29 PM
Don
9 inch on a tr6,but i'm sure TRF has 10" they are made by Brembo in Italy. Iirc Charles brings them as blanks and drill's the holes as required.I think he mentioned that at TR Fest.

DNK
02-11-2008, 11:37 PM
There ya go, Don!

Sounds to me like you need a jack, not a sheriff!! /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/lol.gif /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/jester.gif

Brosky
02-12-2008, 06:56 PM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:] 9 inch on a tr6,but i'm sure TRF has 10" they are made by Brembo in Italy. Iirc Charles brings them as blanks and drill's the holes as required.I think he mentioned that at TR Fest. [/QUOTE]

Casey,

That would be correct. My boxes had the Brembo name right on them and they are machined in the states.

I waited until he was having a sale and bought mine.

Opa
02-12-2008, 07:31 PM
Paul
That's why I bought them at Triumpest.Charlie had them on special show price 100.00 each,fiqured that wasn't bad. Gave my Z drums to a fellow club member.

Had some trouble to install them as i went with larger Morgan wheel cyl. as well and because there is small difference's in wheel cyl overall length,new drums would'nt fit over new shoe's.Had to arc shoes down some to fit.Also had to refab E brake arms were they fit in whl cyl slot. Morgan uses different pin size.Not a direct bolt on item.

Also put EBC Green Stuff pads up front.Should stop on a dime and get some change back.

DNK
02-12-2008, 08:24 PM
I had always heard the Morgan cyl. were a bolt on.

Opa
02-12-2008, 08:29 PM
Don
That's what I had always heard.Ya never know until you try it.Could be there is a difference in whl.cyl. depending on supplier? I don't know,but I know what I had to do as I just put them on a month or so ago.

Brosky
02-12-2008, 08:36 PM
I went with the stock wheel cylinder, so I can't help on that one.

02-13-2008, 06:03 AM
Also put EBC Green Stuff pads up front.Should stop on a dime and get some change back.

They do, and you will. But use that spare change you get back to buy some wheel cleaner. Those Kevlar brake pads make a terrible mess on the front wheels in the form of brake dust. Very disappointing.

02-13-2008, 06:06 AM
Oh, and I used brake paint, thinned it with the appropriate thinner and sprayed my Alfin-style drums "Screaming Yellow."

No, it doesn't interfere with heat dissipation and yes it is Super Bling.

DrEntropy
02-13-2008, 07:01 AM
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Between you 'n Dale, dunno which of ya t' call th' BlingMeister... /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/jester.gif

Brosky
02-13-2008, 08:51 AM
Doc,

Which ever one starts hanging out with a gold chain around their neck with a diamond studded big "T" on it.

It could be "T" for Triumph

Or "T" for Todd.

Or "T" for Teeth.

Or "T" in honor of the original bling-master, Mr. T.

Opa
02-13-2008, 09:48 AM
Didn't really want to hear about the dust part Bill.May have to retrain better half as she likes to polish and dust etc. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/jester.gif

I also painted the drums,I used a metallic silver caliper paint

RonMacPherson
02-13-2008, 12:06 PM
Next time go with the Datsun wheel cylinders too, they just bolt(ed) right on. Only difference is the id of the cylinder.. You are going to the Datsun drums, go the cylinders also..... And they were cheaper than the Morgan cylinders.

Opa
02-13-2008, 02:26 PM
Ron
do you know what the cyl, dimensions are for nissan/Datsun?I know stock TR is .070 which is fine with stock tire size but with the 205-70x15 I found them anemic so I went to .075 cyl which was used in 10" TR3 i believe and very late tr6. I found them to be better but could still use more,so went to the Morgan .875 cyl.As soon as weather warms up I'll try em out and see.
I also put on new shoes as I suspect the old ones could be of a hard compound.

2wrench
02-14-2008, 01:31 AM
Didn't really want to hear about the dust part Bill.May have to retrain better half as she likes to polish and dust etc. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/jester.gif

I also painted the drums,I used a metallic silver caliper paint

Looks downright pretty.

Andrew Mace
02-14-2008, 09:50 AM
Next time go with the Datsun wheel cylinders too, they just bolt(ed) right on....Is the hydraulic pipe thread the same on the Datsun wheel cylinders, or do you have to make up a special line with the correct fitting for the Datsun cylinder?

RonMacPherson
02-14-2008, 12:05 PM
bolted right on, same thread pitch.... course that was for my 74 6, if I remember right the cylinders I got were for a 510. I know I found the reference for them either on the old Buckeyes site or on the Monster List, but that was a while back.

DNK
02-14-2008, 03:18 PM
bolted right on, same thread pitch.... course that was for my 74 6, if I remember right the cylinders I got were for a 510. I know I found the reference for them either on the old Buckeyes site or on the Monster List, but that was a while back.

So won't work for the early 6's.

Opa
02-14-2008, 06:45 PM
Don
rear wheel cyl. are all the same, tr3 thru 6 with slotted piston.

DNK
02-14-2008, 06:47 PM
So the later 6's don't have metric in the back, just front calipers?

TR3driver
02-14-2008, 07:37 PM
So the later 6's don't have metric in the back, just front calipers? Right. There is an adapter piece (and bolts) for the front calipers, the rest of the brakes are not metric.

TR3driver
02-14-2008, 07:43 PM
rear wheel cyl. are all the same, tr3 thru 6 with slotted piston. They do interchange, but there were at least 3 different sizes of rear wheel cylinder fitted, even after the Lockheed brakes and early Girling with the flat piston ends. The TR3A switched from .75 bore to .625, then back to .75 when the drums changed to 9". Then I believe they changed again to .70 during the TR4 run.

Opa
02-14-2008, 07:53 PM
/bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/iagree.gif Randall and there's probably other Brit cars using same whl.cyl.Later Austin's i think used same set up