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NutmegCT
02-22-2007, 08:50 AM
I've noticed that in most TR pics the engine bays are the same color as the car's exterior.

Makes sense - it's all sprayed at the same time.

But in a few pics the bay is a "dull gray" - like primer.

Is there a useful purpose in *not* repainting the bay when repainting the car (other than painting without pulling the engine)?

Or a reason for painting the bay a different color than the rest of the car?

Thanks.
Tom

kodanja
02-22-2007, 08:52 AM
<span style="color: #3333FF"> </span> <span style='font-size: 20pt'>PURE LAZYNESS!!</span>

https://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k270/KODANJA7/aaa3.jpg

MarkT
02-22-2007, 09:23 AM
Kodanja - what is that you used to coat the engine bay? Looks pretty rough to the touch?

Mark

NutmegCT
02-22-2007, 09:41 AM
Kodanja - it may be "pure lazyness" ... but it sure looks good!

Tom

billspit
02-22-2007, 09:47 AM
The only reason to do that is you can later paint the exterior a different color and you not have to pull the engine or body to re-color the engine bay.

AweMan
02-22-2007, 10:14 AM
kodanja:
I like your engine bay! That`s what I classify as "done right"!
Yea, mabe not to manufacturers original {but thats usualy garbage anyway}. After seeing your engine bay, My TR-3 will get the same as you have done I`m sure.

Brosky
02-22-2007, 10:33 AM
It's all a matter of how much time and effort that you want to devote to the project. Bill did a great job on his, but remember, if you decide to change color, it sometimes leads to more work than staying with the original. If you change color and do it correctly, as Bill has, then you need to cover everything in the new color.

After that, it's simply a matter of personal preference.

I went with the original color, but did give it a lot of thought after looking at Bill's.

https://www.74tr6.com/pics/Paint Shop 022 (Custom).jpg

https://www.74tr6.com/pics/Paint Shop 029 (Custom).jpg

swift6
02-22-2007, 11:23 AM
I've been told that my engine bay paint is just as nice as my exterior paint. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif Nice paint inside makes it easy to keep clean AND look good.

https://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/sloseke/Triumph%20Stuff/2.jpg

AweMan
02-22-2007, 11:34 AM
My 56 Tr3 will deffinately NOT be the original PUTRID ivory color anyway! Saying that, it will be original BUT it won`t be the original color! I was thinking of a red, BUT dang! There are a lot of red TR3`s. My second choice is a deep forrest green {almost black} with tan interior. Back on topic, the engine bay and inner apron aperance to me is not a significant issue as far as color or correctness goes. What is significant to me is fending off corrosion and maintaining cosmeticaly pleasing aperance. What Bill has done with his engine bay seems to me to have both assets.

Brosky
02-22-2007, 12:11 PM
Tom & Kerry,

I agree with Shawn, in that once you get it cleaned and painted, whatever the color, you will tend to keep it looking that way.

It's far more important to make sure that all of the surface preparation is done properly prior to applying any kind of top coating. That's where it gets tricky under the hood. there are a lot of items in the way, that have to be removed or covered, because under those brake lines, valves, relays, etc. is usually where the corrosion begins to start it's process.

It's definitely a lot easy to prepare the outer surface of a hood or fender than to work under the hood.

kodanja
02-22-2007, 12:33 PM
I will have the time, patients and $$ to do it right on my next project car, which will hopefully be this spring (TR3).

I took the Cowards way out on my 6, I didnt want to remove the engine at the time of paint so I went with a rubberized textured trunk paint. The good thing is, if I happen to scratch it, a quick spray and it matches perfectly, also acts as a nice weather proofing.

<span style="color: #CC0000"> </span> <span style='font-size: 20pt'>BUILT TO DRIVE BABY!!!!</span>

LOOKS BETTER THAN IT DID

https://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k270/KODANJA7/TR636.jpg https://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k270/KODANJA7/DSC05928aaa.jpg

BritBox
02-22-2007, 04:01 PM
My engine bay color is the same as the rest of the car--I had the tub dipped so I was starting with bare metal. I was leaning towards white but my lovely wife said red and that was the end of that. Red is a fun color, for sure.

Here's a shot of my tub the day it finally came home from the bodyshop. The engine bay looks nice in the image; the paint flowed out nice and glossy but there were places where they just shot over dirt. I ended up having to re-sand some areas, clean up a lot of crud left in the crevices, and also seal some seams that were missed. I bought a spray gun and reshot the engine bay myself. I'm happy with about 85% of what I did considering it was my first time. Let's not discuss the rest...

https://webzoom.freewebs.com/britbox/New%20TR250/TR250shiny25x7.jpg

Brosky
02-22-2007, 04:38 PM
Now that is what you call a perfect paint job under the hood. Just take your time putting everything back. Blue painters tape does wonders to help avoid scratches on new paint.

Your wife is very wise, indeed. That looks beautiful.

kodanja
02-22-2007, 04:56 PM
he choose the correct path!

The Red looks awesome!
My next TR project will be dipped for sure.

Good luck with it BritBox, please keep us posted with lot of pix!

TR_Jim
02-22-2007, 05:07 PM
If you are at all interested in showing your car, it seems the engine bay should be the same as the body color. My bay was silver when I bought the car, and at most shows I would sneak in a third place. After painting the bay to match, 1st and 2nd places were not unusual. Judges like to see the original color. I didn't pull the engine to paint mine.

https://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q69/67jim68/JpgTR8.jpg

https://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q69/67jim68/TR4_08.jpg

kodanja
02-22-2007, 05:09 PM
very nice!!!

Brosky
02-22-2007, 05:36 PM
Neither did I (meaning my body shop), but it took a lot of time and effort to remove everything and do it correctly, but I'd never want it done any other way.

BritBox
02-22-2007, 05:54 PM
Thanks Paul, thanks kodanja!

The guy who shot the REST of the car was a real pro. I insisted on straight enamel instead of base/clear and the bodyshop guys acted like I was nuts. Little Mikey the painter just shook his head at me and then proceeded to do a beautiful job flowing the paint--except for the engine bay where he painted over dirt! The car has never been rubbed out but it has a nice gloss. I'm very happy with it.

Dipping the car is worthwhile, especially when the old wreck is as far gone as mine was. There's an industrial metal stripping facility about 30 miles from here; they did my frame and misc. suspension parts for about $125--and it fit easily in the back of a Chevy van. When I went back a year later to do the tub and fenders, that batch was about $400 but well worth it.

Hey kodanja, thanks for your support, but the car's been finished for over five years! Here's a link to more images from my site:

https://www.thebritbox.com/britboxsfavoritetr250.htm

I think Paul's already seen them.

Thanks again,

NutmegCT
02-22-2007, 06:31 PM
Mike - your britbox website is excellent. And I fully agree with your blog comment:

"True motoring satisfaction is found in the exploration of sudden negative camber curves that precede narrow covered bridges—the thump of a sporty British car’s Yokohama tires on cracked and patched two-lane blacktop."

Well done sir!

Tom

BritBox
02-22-2007, 09:21 PM
Thank you, Tom! Glad you liked it.

There are lots and lots of great member sites linked here on The British Car Forum. Visiting them is part of the fun.

Best regards,

Brosky
02-22-2007, 09:55 PM
Mike, one of the benefits of getting older is that I get to see new pictures every day. And a lot of them are my own car!!

You are correct. I remember discussing what I should do with mine way back when and your work helped push me in the right direction.

BTW, my car was painted with Dupont Centari Acrylic enamel. Way back in 1985, after the original paint had faded to a very dull yellow. No rust, just fade from being in the sun, because it never saw snow. Factory paint was never a strong point on these cars and eventually age took it's toll under the hood, which is why I wanted it to match the outside.

John Kuzman
02-23-2007, 07:23 AM
Mike Smith aka BritBox-

I have sent you a PM.

tomshobby
02-23-2007, 07:48 AM
Factory paint was never a strong point on these cars .............

I agree. My first two Triumphs were painted within three years of being new and someone painted my TR6 with a very amateur job. Right over the bumps and dings even. So that will be a future project. At least there is very little rust.

It seems to me that the original paint is best removed before new paint is applied. No sense covering a problem.

jackag91
02-23-2007, 11:14 PM
So when you guys said you had your tubs dip, what does that entail and what is a rough estimate on cost?