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09-05-2006, 09:15 PM
I learned a valuable lesson Monday...NEVER TALK GOOD ABOUT YOUR CAR WITHIN EARSHOT!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nonono.gif

Here's the story...

Our LBC Club had a parade entry in Park City's Miners Day parade. Me, daughter, and the Spider made the trip and the car ran GREAT! Parked at the top of the hill in the marshal area, and in the course of idle chatter, mentioned that my car had been really reliable; in fact I wouldn't hesitate to take it almost anywhere. Got the "start your engines" signal, and that exactly what the Spider DIDN'T do. Cranked like crazy, but no life at all. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif Luckily, the parade route is all downhill, so just coasted all the way to the park at the end of the route.

Parked it and several club members started helping me toubleshoot. Had gas, had spark. It would catch for a couple seconds, and you could just smell the raw gas spewing out the back. Oh...and the car is fuel injected. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif My immediate thought was ignition module, as it's had a real affinity for eating them, especially when hot. Of course, all the spares were at home (65 miles away). Luckily, one club member committed heresy (brought his Mercedes) /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nonono.gif and gave us a ride home. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Grabbed spares and tools, and headed back up the mountain. Replaced module (took about 10 minutes), turned key...no better. RATS /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hammer.gif Pull out another spare...no better. RATS! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/hammer.gif Looking at the prospect of an expensive tow home /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nopity.gif However, a guy that's done lots of the heavier work on it lives in Park City. Went on a quest to find his house. Success!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif

Mike rides back and starts troubleshooting. Plugs soaked in gas, good spark...hmmmmm. Made two trips back and forth to his house for tools and parts. No good. About ready to call a wrecker to haul it to his house, and he looks at a connector...on the ECU's coolant temp sensor. Falls right off in his hand! He holds it down, I crank, and the car starts and runs fine...just like nothing happened. With the broken connection, the ECU thought it was 100 degrees below zero and was just dumping gas through the injectors trying to get it running. Silly ECU /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/lol.gif

Ok...connector's shot...gotta spare? Heck no! Mike, you got a spare? Heck no! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif What to do, what to do. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif Ah-ha! The cold start injector uses the same connecter. It's 80 degrees outside (26.5 for those using C), so it's not needed to get it started. Ok, wires cut and spliced, now need electrical tape. None! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nopity.gif Oh wait a minute...I had a old piece of romex in the trunk, and had about 3 twists on it. Tape it up, and off I go /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/driving.gif (with daughter in the chase vehicle). 70+ mph, ran like a champ again /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/driving.gif

Moral of Story...Never say nice things about your car when it can overhear you! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/lol.gif

09-05-2006, 09:21 PM
I have learned it is better to wait until the entire trip has been completed, and we are safely home before I talk to, of , or about my car. I then thank her for the trouble free trip, then check her oil to show I care.

09-05-2006, 09:50 PM
Interesting. My TR-250 seems to require continued praise and validation in order to keep running (I hope he's not listening)! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

09-05-2006, 09:52 PM
I'm very glad my Triumphs have a wooden dash. Every time I think about how good the cars are running, I have to give the dashboard a tap. Knock on wood, never been standed... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
(I hope I don't regret posting this)

Trevor Triumph
09-05-2006, 10:21 PM
Yeah, I had the same sort of thing a few years ago. We getting ready to leave on the yearly Phoenix to Flagstaff drive and I noted that the car was running very well. Then added, "If it breaks I'll fix it." We parked the car halfway to Flag and had to tow it home two days later. But now we do encourage and affirm the car with fegular pats on the dash and kind words. T.T.

09-05-2006, 10:48 PM
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/iagree.gifvOh, you probably will regret it. I will say this nice thing about my car...it hasn't stranded me yet. It's always managed to get me where I was headed. Might have died when it got there, but then it was my final destination anyway. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif

09-06-2006, 03:20 AM
Rich, I learned of the unwritten rule about such things at a tender age.
I have considered offering ritual sacrifices before making long trips.

09-06-2006, 05:56 AM
Ritual Sacrifices?.......Like,

Higher octane gas than it needs
Better quality oil than necessary
Tyres before they wear out
Shocks before they're shot
Supreme paranoia regarding anything Lucas
Gage obsessing
Shear panic over new noises

Yet.....I keep the trailer attached to my truck, fueled up and parked behind a friends house.
An extra cell phone battery in the Elva & my friends # on speed dial.
(As a MINIMUM.....At ALL times) /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yesnod.gif

I have had everyting on the car apart & probably replaced 1/2 of it.
I still break down on average 3 times per year (on the road) & require a tow one of those times. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cryin.gif

I have spent MUCH more than I'd ever get out of the car.
Friends & family members think I've lost my mind.
BCF is the only place where anyone understands.

THANK YOU ALL /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

09-06-2006, 07:35 AM
When I bought my TR6, the PO told me two things: Don't sit at a traffic light with my foot on the clutch, and don't ever yell at the car. Good advice ... I don't do either and for 16 years so far, it has never let me down.

Of course, between this posting, and the fact I have been lavishing all my attention on the new TR4, I am doomed. The next time I take the TR6 out I fully expect it to blow up /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


09-06-2006, 07:54 AM
I'm very glad my Triumphs have a wooden dash. Every time I think about how good the cars are running, I have to give the dashboard a tap. Knock on wood,

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Now I know why they were made with that nice wood dash!

09-06-2006, 08:31 AM
Sorry, just on the voodoo factor alone, /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/jester.gif I dare not even add my two cents worth to this "Very Risky Topic"

09-06-2006, 08:36 AM
It's sort of like my golf game-- if I lower my expectations I'm not so disappointed and even do well on occasion!

09-06-2006, 08:53 AM
My security blanket: Cell phone and towing ins. I was going to say I've not need either one but that would be asking for trouble.

09-06-2006, 03:13 PM
In 50 years I've never been stranded by an LBC....Ususally they don't get moving anywhere in the first place....But once the car is running everything has always been fine(knock,knock).

09-06-2006, 03:24 PM
you just jinxed youself !!!!!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazyeyes.gif

09-06-2006, 04:22 PM
A number of years ago I was road tripping my 67 Spit and it started to miss and pop. I pulled to the side of the road and checked the points. The rub block had worn and they were too close. I set them by guess and stopped at a farm parts store. Wouldn't ya know they had a set of points to fit my little tractor engine. I borrowed a feeler guage and was on my way. Never was stranded. You just have to have faith and carry tools.

09-06-2006, 06:23 PM
Good place to look for fuses, bulbs and other Lucas parts. Glad you got back on the road.

09-06-2006, 06:44 PM
The distributor on my TR3 fell apart in Leesville, Louisiana. Needless to say, there weren't any LBC dealers in the middle of nowhere in 1972. An old farmer befriended me, checked out the engine and said, "...shucks, that thar ain't nuthin but a tractor engine." He helped me rig a distributor off his old Massey-Ferguson tractor. It ran. No kidding.


09-06-2006, 06:49 PM
I don't know about the 3's, but I'm told that the early spit engines were Ferguson. That's what the points that I put in were.

09-06-2006, 07:39 PM
Yup. the TR2-4a 4 cyl was the same engine they used in Furgeson tractors, among other things.
the really early TR2s even had a double thermostat housing that was a carryover from the tractor.
I can talk about my TR4A as it's down the road now. It was a heap. held togeather with tape and wire. but it never left me stranded, or failed to start with anything more than minor fiddling.
My old Toyota truck used to give me all kinds of fits till I would threaten to sell it for a newer car. then it would run so nice I just coulden't get rid of it. (for a while anyway)

09-07-2006, 10:28 AM
Glad you got it sorted out. Wish I could have helped more, but that new fangled engine under there doesn't make any sense to me. Smarter folks than me were nearby. Maybe the Spider felt neglected, and wanted some attention. It is a nice looking car, after all.

Andrew Mace
09-07-2006, 11:06 AM
I don't know about the 3's, but I'm told that the early spit engines were Ferguson. That's what the points that I put in were.

[/ QUOTE ]As "Banjo" has already noted, it was the wet-liner TR engines that were derived from the Standard Vanguard AND Standard-Triumph-built Ferguson tractors. Spitfire motors are a whole 'nuther subject.

But Spitfires up to the mid-1970s used an AC Delco distributor rather than Lucas, and the wear bits (points, rotor, cap) in those Delco units fit a lot of American iron as well. I discovered around 1973 that the rotor was the same as that in my '51 Chevy, for example!

09-07-2006, 01:15 PM
Maybe the Spider felt neglected, and wanted some attention. It is a nice looking car, after all.

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Funny you should say that. As we were coasting down the hill during the parade, one guy yelled "Awesome looking car" to us. I figured that should have made her feel better. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nonod.gif

09-08-2006, 09:28 AM
I had someone yell "I want to buy your car" -- he also yelled "I want to buy your girl" (my wife) so I think he may have been making an early start to the day, so to speak. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

09-08-2006, 01:45 PM
Sell wife = More LBC Car parts....


Just Kidding !!

09-08-2006, 02:06 PM
NOW REALLY! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nonono.gif

what do ya really think yer gunna get fer the wife... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/driving.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

maybe a new starter.... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/england.gif

09-08-2006, 04:06 PM
Naa, if I sell the wife it's only a one time payment, but if I keep her I get a monthly paycheck... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/devilgrin.gif