View Full Version : Yours truly slaying the Dragon

07-24-2006, 02:58 PM


tony barnhill
07-24-2006, 03:05 PM
That 2nd shot tells me you don't need an oversize sway bar!

Oh, tell Chuck not to hang onto that vent window frame so tightly or he'll start the crack of doom!

07-24-2006, 03:10 PM
I'm on him constantly about that Tony. He really isn't holding onto it in that picture, it just looks like he has the grip of death on it. Goes well with the grimace on his face. If he could have, he'd have loved to look at the gauges, but he was askeered to take his eyes off the road.

07-24-2006, 03:11 PM
Where is his other hand?

Holding a Bible?


07-24-2006, 03:21 PM

tony barnhill
07-24-2006, 04:09 PM
If anything, I'd retrofit her with the same size bar that was optional for her from the factory....notice I said, "if anything".

07-24-2006, 05:53 PM
Great pictures... And as for the handling and feel of the car - I'd guess your just noticing the day and night difference between the early car, and later one. Take her for what she is.... MG's first unibody chassis built in the early sixties. Many refinements were made over the 10 years difference between the 2.

Looked like a fun drive - I'll have to get up there someday. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif

07-24-2006, 07:36 PM
Wow, that thing is quite a hill climber! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Trevor Jessie
07-24-2006, 08:23 PM
Like I said before. I do not know anything about MGB suspension/handling, but that second picture looks to have quite a bit of body roll. A good heavy sway bar would settle the inside tire down, and then both wheels will be following a better track through the curve. I'd buy a bar and mounting links that could be swapped out for other thicknesses without having to buy new links for each style bar. And the links and mounting systems also greatly determine the effectiveness of a bar.

Janel, did you buy those from killboy or the other guys that were there?

tony barnhill
07-24-2006, 08:31 PM
Trevor - compared to most MG's that one has barely any body roll...unless she was driving it like a little old lady (which I doubt!).

Trevor Jessie
07-24-2006, 08:49 PM
I dunno, looks pretty extreme to me. However, the boat type handling is what made me avoid the MGB.

07-24-2006, 08:51 PM
You ought to try driving a real boat before you go comparing an MGB to a boat. I've got one that would have you upchucking in a second if you think Janels car is rolling too much.

Trevor Jessie
07-24-2006, 09:12 PM
I've spent more than my share of time on various boats, and it is just an expression. I guess my impression of the MGB is tainted, because when I first drove one I was expecting it to handle more like a miata, but instead it handled more like a ford maverick.

07-24-2006, 09:39 PM
well, one thing is for sure... she's not braking in those pics... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

07-24-2006, 09:47 PM
THIS is body roll. Binabox is hardly rolling at all.


and from the looks of his forearm grinding his elbow tight to the door I hardly doubt she's driving like a little old lady either /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Trevor Jessie
07-24-2006, 09:52 PM
That is a much harder corner, and it looks like he is experiencing some understeer... but it is hard to tell what is happening in the picture.

07-24-2006, 10:01 PM
I never drive like a little old lady. My mother is 81 and drives like she owns the pole position at Daytona. And I taught her how to drive when she was 49 years old.

My philosophy is:
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "WOW - What a ride!"

TJ, I bought them from Killboy. I didn't know about any others taking pictures. I didn't see ANYONE taking pictures, but I was pretty much concentrating on the 10 feet in front of me and that double yellow line. And trying to figure out how to toss Chuck out of the car if he told me ONE more time how to drive the Tail!

Noonie, I don't need no stinkin' brakes.

07-24-2006, 11:01 PM
Agree, that's uncomfertable i bet.

07-25-2006, 07:15 AM
Was this your first time there? I ran through there with some friends back in Febuary/March and had a BLAST! I was only a day off of my car's break in period though so I was still not fully "in tune" with it but it still amazed me just how well it held it through some of the pedal on the ground sweepers.

Some photos from out trip to the gap...


And the only one from Killboy, although this was the image used in the first of his new banners on the site.

Deals Gap blog post (https://www.fleur-design.net/lotus/2006/02/lotus-elise-deals-gap-adventure.html)

07-25-2006, 09:40 AM
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "WOW - What a ride!"

Love it.

tony barnhill
07-25-2006, 08:15 PM
...&, Jim, I'll be that car has at least a standard bar - maybe a heavier than stock one.

...like I said, "tain't the sway bar that's the problem."


07-25-2006, 09:23 PM
Deals Gap / Dragon looks like fun.
My pals from RoadsterChat go down every year, but it's too far (and the wrong time) for me.
Honestly, I think I'd prefer it on a bike.

Whatever you take, watch the trucks! (or your fender will end up on "the tree of motorcycle parts").


07-25-2006, 10:05 PM
Why on earth would they allow tractor trailor rigs on those roads?

07-25-2006, 10:13 PM
There are signs posted about commercial vehicles being prohibited, but I assume deliveries have to be made to Deal's Gap, etc. And it's a short cut. The LONG way around takes 2 1/2 hours from what I've heard.

On Saturday when Brian & Chelle drove the Tail, a semi literally got wedged on a curve, had traffic completely stopped both directions.

07-25-2006, 10:33 PM

07-25-2006, 11:29 PM
It seems like trailers come through somewhat regularly. They at at least usually have a lead car though to help slow people down before they come through a blind curve.

07-26-2006, 09:56 AM
at least it was a disposable Miata