View Full Version : TR2/3/3A off topic , but can you help with a quotation

01-27-2018, 03:56 AM
this morning I read a comment about how the young generation have no role models for manners. has any one seen this and have a source?. A friend wishes to use it

01-27-2018, 10:45 AM
Perhaps it was this NYT article?

Keep Your Head Up: How Smartphone Addiction Kills Manners and Moods

01-29-2018, 03:35 AM
Thank you. No it was not that article thought it fits some of the issues. I will keep looking: it was making the point of lack of role models for manners so how could they possibly learn ( except from some of us older folks).

01-29-2018, 12:53 PM

01-29-2018, 02:08 PM
You might be thinking of this:

"The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for
authority, they show disrespect to their elders.... They no longer
rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents,
chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their
legs, and are tyrants over their teachers."

There's actually no reliable source for the author, but it's similar to this section of Plato's Republic, Book 4:

Socrates is quoted saying the following regarding things that he thinks have
been neglected: "I mean such things as these: when the young are to
be silent before their elders; how they are to show respect to them by
standing and making them sit; what honour is due to parents; what
garments or shoes are to be worn; the mode of dressing the hair;
deportment and manners in general. You would agree with me? Yes."

I'm thinking adults have had similar thoughts about young'ns since Adam and Eve left Eden.

Tom M.

01-31-2018, 03:25 PM
thank you. wow! Were we like that when we were young?

Last night we got up to see the moon disappear into our shadow before the clouds rolled in again. but we did catch a glimpse of the "blood moon". before we went back to bed. Well worth the excursion. And hopefully some usable photographs.