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NutmegCT
02-17-2017, 07:13 PM
More and more when I Google a shop, store, restaurant, etc., I find they have a Facebook page - but not a website.

And of course, almost all the Facebook pages request a Facebook Login. If you don't sign in, the page gradually covers up with a "please login" box. Same for Pinterest.

No thanks.

Does anyone else run into this?

Sure as heck I'm not joining Facebook (with all the tentacles it grasps you with), to find a product. Wonder if the folks who create those Facebook pages realize they're likely losing some customers. You can make Facebook homepages "public" - but I'm betting most don't know to do that.

Thanks.
Tom M.

TOC
02-17-2017, 07:18 PM
I have not had that particular issue. Either they have a workaround on the site, or my FB Blockers kill it. I have several various FB and g+ blockers.
They even keep those annoying icons on your favourite webpages GONE, as in PERMANENTLY gone.
What is your OS and browser?
Got an example?

I know a lot of folks do not realize the Brave New World of full integration 10 has dumped on them.
To the point you won't be able to buy a new PC now that does not have an Intel or AMD processor that will ONLY work with 10.
Kid you naught.

TOC
02-17-2017, 07:23 PM
I take that partially back. I removed those when I found RIP (Remove It Permanently), which does script that ABP (Ad Block Plus) won't block.

Basil
02-17-2017, 07:38 PM
Zuckerberg is a globalist Billionaire who wants to control all information flow on the internet (no, I'm not wearing a tin foil hat). Hard for little websites like us to compete with his bucks!

NutmegCT
02-17-2017, 07:45 PM
I hear you there. But my question is why so many businesses are leaving websites and moving to Facebook only? FB isn't paying the businesses.

Edit: More specifically, why are businesses leaving "public" websites that they own (or control) that are free for anyone to view, and moving to a "You Must Log In to Continue" Facebook page?

I'm guessing that the business doesn't realize non-Facebook folks are "locked out".

Basil
02-17-2017, 07:57 PM
I hear you there. But my question is why so many businesses are leaving websites and moving to Facebook only? FB isn't paying the businesses.

Edit: More specifically, why are businesses leaving "public" websites that they own (or control) that are free for anyone to view, and moving to a "You Must Log In to Continue" Facebook page?

I'm guessing that the business doesn't realize non-Facebook folks are "locked out".

If I was going to guess it;s because they feel FB, which tracks every more you make on the net, is a better way for them to target YOU.

NutmegCT
02-17-2017, 07:59 PM
Good guess I think. But I don't think the business gets the tracking info - I think only Facebook gets that. So what's the advantage for the business to leave its own "anyone can view" website, and go to a "only some people can view" site?

Basil
02-17-2017, 08:09 PM
Good guess I think. But I don't think the business gets the tracking info - I think only Facebook gets that. So what's the advantage for the business to leave its own "anyone can view" website, and go to a "only some people can view" site?

They probably know that if, for example, they have a flower pot business, everyone who ever mentions flower pots in any post on FB will get there web site shoved under the noses of those people relentlessly.

NutmegCT
02-17-2017, 08:13 PM
ah-HA! Never thought of that.

But jeez, sure makes it tough for us non-FB folks.

47247

Can't move my stone-age records into the Cloud!

:jester:

TOC
02-17-2017, 08:23 PM
Still don't know what OS or browser, and no "examples" to look at.
IF you are using a stupidphone 3.0, possibly the mobile version is playing it up.

I also have user agent switcher, to tell them what OS and browser, and it is nothing like what I am really using.

NutmegCT
02-17-2017, 08:26 PM
Dave - doesn't matter what OS or browser. The question was why would businesses stop using websites that anyone can browse, and move to websites (Facebook) that only certain people can browse.

Thanks.

Basil
02-17-2017, 09:04 PM
Dave - doesn't matter what OS or browser. The question was why would businesses stop using websites that anyone can browse, and move to websites (Facebook) that only certain people can browse.

Thanks.

Because the number of people (like me) who don't use FB is growing smaller by the day?

TOC
02-17-2017, 09:04 PM
Like I said...I haven't seen that yet.
Supposedly business pages were initially set up to be viewable without log-in. Some businesses fail to set their pages up properly (google it...I did), but anymore the first thing I think of is how FB views your browser and OS. There have been MANY issues in the past...been caught up in some.

GregW
02-17-2017, 09:58 PM
A Facebook page may be far cheaper to put up and maintain vs. a dedicated site.

Elva164
02-21-2017, 02:21 PM
I've got both a website and a Facebook page for the shop, and I'd think to answer your question the Facebook page requires less initial effort/investment to create and is probably easier to target towards customers in a niche market (which most aspects of vintage car ownership occupy). As others have said, it may also be related to the relative ubiquity of Facebook these days. As far as advertising on Facebook, I'd be curious how the costs end up working out. Facebook has very much become "pay to play" with regard to your material being spread. If you want people to see something, you have to pay. Even people who have "liked" your page won't necessarily see everything you post if you don't attach some money to it. It's pretty dumb if you ask me, which is why I don't go that route very much. The website is there all the time, but has to be shown to people in many cases because small sites will have a hard time coming up anywhere near the beginning of search engine results.