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#174341 - 07/30/06 12:05 PM eBay Healey
Bruce Bowker Offline
Obi Wan

Registered: 03/10/04
Posts: 2400
Loc: Bonaire, Netherlands Antilles
This car has appeared too many times . Now with free shipping world wide?????????

Prior to this "seller" it was listed by an "IronClassics" seller.

Bruce
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Austin-He...1QQcmdZViewItem
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1956 Austin Healey 100M.
1964 E-Type Coupe.
1967 Mini Cooper S.
1972 E-Type V12 convert.
Caterham Super Seven.


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#174342 - 07/30/06 05:06 PM Re: eBay Healey
ThomP Offline
Jedi Warrior

Registered: 09/24/02
Posts: 659
Loc: Wellington, Florida
Here's somebody that has spent less than $20.00 getting his rating of "10" and now selling not 1, but 3 cars for over 34K each.

Anyone in Houston want to go see these cars in person and report him if he won't show them??


Edited by Editor_Reid (07/30/06 06:24 PM)

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#174343 - 07/30/06 05:16 PM Re: eBay Healey
John Loftus Offline
Darth Vader

Registered: 12/16/01
Posts: 2518
Loc: Laguna Beach, California
I know we've talked about this one before. What gets me is the claims about "professional frame restored ... professionally restored ... approximately 500 miles on the mechanical/engine rebuild ..." and it has an old wiring harness, tired rusty engine bay with black sprayed bulkhead and well worn looking front suspension. Not to mention zero pictures of the frame or any restoration process. But the paint is shiny and the incorrect vinyl has a lifetime supply of Armor All. It *might* be a legit auction but description does not match the photos and the 'buy it now' price is way out of line. (IMHO)

Cheers,
John

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#174344 - 07/30/06 06:43 PM Re: eBay Healey
100DashSix Offline
Jedi Trainee

Registered: 08/15/05
Posts: 277
Loc: Virginia
Yeesh. Even my mouse cursor slips off those ridiculously shiny seats!
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#174345 - 07/30/06 07:16 PM Re: eBay Healey
Velox Offline
Jedi Hopeful

Registered: 12/04/05
Posts: 138
Loc: Iowa, USA
There's just something about glistening seat surfaces right next to rusty hinge and rail hardware but I STILL am fascinated with that dual inlet gas tank
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1966 AH 3000

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#174346 - 07/30/06 07:49 PM Re: eBay Healey
Michael Oritt Offline
Luke Skywalker

Registered: 06/28/01
Posts: 1500
Loc: Solomons, MD, USA
Quote:

I STILL am fascinated with that dual inlet gas tank




Yes--looks like someone had a BN1-2 tank waiting around to utilize in the professional restoration. I also like the piece of duct tape guarding the wire to the right door speaker.
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Best--Michael Oritt, 1955 AH 100 Le Mans, 1960 AH 3000, 1958 Elva Courier

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#174347 - 07/31/06 05:37 AM Re: eBay Healey
SHG Offline
Jedi Warrior

Registered: 09/03/04
Posts: 604
Loc: Long Island, New York
of course, the Healey listing has already been removed from ebay. They're getting better at keeping the place clean.

On the subject of professional restorations, I keep reading listings about restorations and seeing Healey's that are pretty wide of the mark (or marque, as the case may be). Even those that claim "concours" restorations will have the wrong exhaust, or a black radiator fan shroud, or something really obvious. I have this urge to write the lister and critique the car. Of course, I don't, but it does bug me that the claims don't wash and somebody is going to buy a car and find out that they didn't get what they thought. On the other hand, caveat emptor. The buyer ought to know what he's buying before shelling out big bucks over the internet.
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#174348 - 07/31/06 07:08 AM Re: eBay Healey
Michael Oritt Offline
Luke Skywalker

Registered: 06/28/01
Posts: 1500
Loc: Solomons, MD, USA
Quote:

of course, the Healey listing has already been removed from ebay. They're getting better at keeping the place clean.




Someone please help me here: I did not have the impression that the auction was fraudulent so much as that the car's description was overblown, and this (the gooey Armorall-coated upholstery, the rusty surfaces and engine, etc.) must have been clear to many folks, not just us Healey mavens.

How does this work? Why and by whom, in your opinions, was the auction cancelled? If by Ebay due to inaccuracy and exaggeration what are Ebay's parameters? Or if by the seller why would he have backed off his position so quickly? Does anyone doubt that this was a real car and real auction albiet an exaggerated one?
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Best--Michael Oritt, 1955 AH 100 Le Mans, 1960 AH 3000, 1958 Elva Courier

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#174349 - 07/31/06 09:38 AM Re: eBay Healey
Bruce Bowker Offline
Obi Wan

Registered: 03/10/04
Posts: 2400
Loc: Bonaire, Netherlands Antilles
I contacted eBay yesterday and as said, all his cars have been removed. eBay does this by checking the account names. It has nothing to do with car descriptions etc. It is all to do with someone stealing account names.

This car has appeared at least twice under two different names and if I recall correctly a 3rd time long ago. In his first email to me awhile ago he said he would possibly go as low as $38,500. Now he will sell, under a differnet name $34,500 and ship anywhere for free. Too many flags popping up saying fraud.

I had some email going baak and forth with him. He was quite upset with what I had to say and ask him. Basically he "welcomed" me to 2006 and the high cost of car shipping by truck. His way was is so cheap internationally that he would ship for free, even Siberia. Not sure how one ships without a truck to the middle of a continent.

Anyhow I am hoping he replies back now that I have asked him why his cars were removed from eBay.

I sure do wish there was a way to nail these guys with a huge fraud fine. Maybe $10,000 would stop him. He uses a Yahoo email name. If some lawmakers would just make it really easy to allow a trace in obvious fraud cases it could be curtailed. If overseas, which may are, that would be a different story.
Bruce
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1956 Austin Healey 100M.
1964 E-Type Coupe.
1967 Mini Cooper S.
1972 E-Type V12 convert.
Caterham Super Seven.


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#174350 - 07/31/06 10:17 AM Re: eBay Healey
Bruce Bowker Offline
Obi Wan

Registered: 03/10/04
Posts: 2400
Loc: Bonaire, Netherlands Antilles
The latest email to me why cars were removed

"I noticed that when I got back from dinner last night, someone had changed my austin-healey buy-it-now, to $2900 (trying to get a quick wire from someone before I would find it), so I quickly went in and changed my password. I then found a "forgot password" alert in my ebay messages (means he figured out my secret question, how I have no idea...maybe a program that is able to do a high speed crack on it). I then simply closed the auction, restarted it and went about my business. about 30 minutes after that ebay shut down the auctions because quote, "..account was compromised and accessed from an unauthorized 3rd party. It will be back up tonight,no problem..."
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1956 Austin Healey 100M.
1964 E-Type Coupe.
1967 Mini Cooper S.
1972 E-Type V12 convert.
Caterham Super Seven.


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