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#647163 - 01/28/10 07:21 PM Ball Joints and Mini ID
King_of_England Offline
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Registered: 08/02/09
Posts: 21
Loc: Cape Coral, Florida, USA
Hi,
Sorry I tried to search this but came up short other than I think it is from a MG Metro………………… I have a '72 clubman with a later motor and front end... When I order parts I am confused on what year parts I need.... Like ball joints....etc.... My engine number is 12HC04AA # 100936 ...Can anyone tell me what year car this came out of.....or any info would be appreciated?
Thanks bunches
Gary Maue

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#647216 - 01/28/10 09:13 PM Re: Ball Joints and Mini ID [Re: King_of_England]
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Yoda

Registered: 03/28/05
Posts: 3237
Loc: Durham, North Carolina, USA
Basil doesn't like it when I refer people to other sites but in this case it is justified.

I believe you'll find a FAQ or pinned thread somewhere on MiniMania.com that will explain decoding cars by their VIN numbers. I think that same thread discusses engine numbers.

Unfortunately, if your front brakes/hubs are from a Metro the ball joints will be different and your Clubman VIN won't help you there. I wish I could tell you how to tell the difference between the two ball joints but I have only seen the Mini parts.
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Doug L.
'64 Morris Mini Cooper-S 1275
'67 Triumph GT6 Mk1
'72 Spifire Mk4

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#647558 - 01/30/10 12:57 AM Re: Ball Joints and Mini ID [Re: dklawson]
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Jedi Knight

Registered: 06/17/08
Posts: 824
Loc: Kirkland, Wash., USA
Yeah, the 12H had me puzzled, as one of my MG sources doesn't show an HC.
However, another source shows two 12H series in Minis, but it also shows a 12HC as Metro 1300 1275cc, series 12HB, 12HC, 12HD, 12HE,12HF.

Metro front end fit under your Clubman?

Metro 1300's produced 1982 - 1990

Didn't the Metro use Mini powertrain?

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#647770 - 01/30/10 06:00 PM Re: Ball Joints and Mini ID [Re: TOC]
dklawson Offline

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Yoda

Registered: 03/28/05
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Loc: Durham, North Carolina, USA
Powertrain... yes. Front hubs/brakes, no.

It's pretty common to find Metro engines transplanted into Minis and there was a time when it was very common for people to adapt the Metro front hubs and brakes to the Mini as well. I don't know the specifics, but there are apparently some significant differences that can lead to undesirable geometries when the Metro hubs are used on the Mini. Sorry, I wish I could be of more help.
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Doug L.
'64 Morris Mini Cooper-S 1275
'67 Triumph GT6 Mk1
'72 Spifire Mk4

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#647794 - 01/30/10 06:51 PM Re: Ball Joints and Mini ID [Re: dklawson]
King_of_England Offline
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Registered: 08/02/09
Posts: 21
Loc: Cape Coral, Florida, USA
Yep, I believe the metro front end is what I got... disc brakes and all....
But I'm not sure of the year????
Thanks bunches 4 your time
Gary

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#650526 - 02/07/10 07:04 PM Re: Ball Joints and Mini ID [Re: King_of_England]
dklawson Offline

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Yoda

Registered: 03/28/05
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Loc: Durham, North Carolina, USA
Gary,

You may want to watch this recent thread for a few days and see if as it progresses it doesn't answer some of your questions.

http://www.theminiforum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=148391
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Doug L.
'64 Morris Mini Cooper-S 1275
'67 Triumph GT6 Mk1
'72 Spifire Mk4

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#653047 - 02/15/10 09:28 PM Re: Ball Joints and Mini ID [Re: dklawson]
King_of_England Offline
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Registered: 08/02/09
Posts: 21
Loc: Cape Coral, Florida, USA
Thanks to all....
I have the complete metro set-up with all adjustable rods arms etc etc... I should have known that when the disc rotor was different.. When I bought it had 12" wheels... I switched to 13".... Just had it all aligned.... it drives beautiful...
Going a couple hundred miles over to coco beach for the mini spring thing next week....

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#653103 - 02/16/10 07:37 AM Re: Ball Joints and Mini ID [Re: King_of_England]
dklawson Offline

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Yoda

Registered: 03/28/05
Posts: 3237
Loc: Durham, North Carolina, USA
Enjoy yourself at Spring Thing. I'm too much of a lightweight to consider driving my Mini that far. Several years ago a friend of mine drove from here to there... but he's the adventurous type! I can't stand the idea of 12+ hours in a car running 4k RPM.
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Doug L.
'64 Morris Mini Cooper-S 1275
'67 Triumph GT6 Mk1
'72 Spifire Mk4

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