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#625019 - 11/15/09 06:38 PM series 2 e-type bonnet
HEALEYJAG Offline
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I have noticed two different mouths on various series 2's. One where it is very oval and the other where the corners are more square. I have looked at many pics and can't seem to find a correlation. I am finishing off my bonnet that I bought used and do not want to do this twice.

Thank you for your input:

Pete

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#625121 - 11/16/09 08:43 AM Re: series 2 e-type bonnet [Re: HEALEYJAG]
Marvin Gruber Offline
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Pete,

Best I know, 1968 was the last year of the oval mouth and running lights above the bumpers. In 69 the mouth was opened up, parking lights enlarged and put underneath the bumpers. There has always been discussion about the 68 car whether it is Series 1.5 or series 2. You can swap bonnets on the SI and SII cars, they mount the same. Dont'e think you can put the(72on) SIII bonnets on earlier cars without some mod.s, SIII looked like the SII but had flared fender wells, the mouth was changed some as well. Underneath bonnet is different. Hope his helps

Marv

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#625201 - 11/16/09 02:26 PM Re: series 2 e-type bonnet [Re: Marvin Gruber]
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Thanks Marv..but what I was looking for is the difference in the mouths of SERIES 2 bonnets. Some are more oval and others have more squared corners...


\Pete

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#627648 - 11/25/09 02:33 PM Re: series 2 e-type bonnet [Re: HEALEYJAG]
sbs Offline
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Originally Posted By: HEALEYJAG
Thanks Marv..but what I was looking for is the difference in the mouths of SERIES 2 bonnets. Some are more oval and others have more squared corners...


I've never heard of such a thing.

Can you provide examples?

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#627795 - 11/26/09 06:42 AM Re: series 2 e-type bonnet [Re: sbs]
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I'm curious as well. Could the "more squared" ones observed have suffered impact and been "reshaped" by unknowing body repair?
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#628321 - 11/28/09 12:47 PM Re: series 2 e-type bonnet [Re: DrEntropy]
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Marvin provided you with the correct answer. If you search the panel suppliers, there is only one bonnet centre section and lower panel offered for a series 2.
I have restored several and have built up complete bonnets from different donors and have never had a problem. Do you have the pictures in hand to show what you are talking about?
Cheers,
David.

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#628332 - 11/28/09 01:47 PM Re: series 2 e-type bonnet [Re: Grantura_MKI]
HEALEYJAG Offline
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If you go to XKEdata.com and scroll through the series two cars you will see distinctively different bonnett openings on the series 2 cars. I have owned all the series over the years, and only recently when replacing mine on a seres 2 have I noticed the difference.

If I were more computor savvy I would download the two openings.

I do not think it is due to body work doc ...mine is "more squared corners and has no bodywork..


Feel the early 69 are different than later 70??

Pete

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#628343 - 11/28/09 02:08 PM Re: series 2 e-type bonnet [Re: HEALEYJAG]
DrEntropy Offline
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I honestly never noticed... and embarrassed as a result. All the Jags I've worked on over th' years. shocked

S-III's are the exception, obviously.

...and I think they're butt-ugly by comparison, too. wink
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#628497 - 11/29/09 10:16 AM Re: series 2 e-type bonnet [Re: DrEntropy]
Grantura_MKI Offline
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Do not know what to say. I have a 1969 in the shop at the monent, and it does not have as you say "square sides". Finished a 1970 a year and a half ago, and the bonnet was the same as the 69. Bloke was the original owner of the vehicle and it had never suffered any damage.

I understand your computer delema, as I have the same disadvantage.

Martin Robey lists only one lower panel for all series 2 vehicles.

Strange one!

Cheers,

David.

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#628530 - 11/29/09 12:35 PM Re: series 2 e-type bonnet [Re: Grantura_MKI]
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I'm glad there are others who are scratching the heads as well. I have owned and restored several S1 & S2 cars, never noticed any differences as mentioned. Will be looking!

Marv

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#628537 - 11/29/09 01:02 PM Re: series 2 e-type bonnet [Re: Marvin Gruber]
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Hi Marvin,
Just curious. The lower panel is quite a complex piece of metal work. The inner ducting fits into the sides of the mouth. On your bonnet, are the inner ducts shaped the same ie. 'square side', or do they have a different radius?
Cheers,
David.

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#628616 - 11/29/09 06:26 PM Re: series 2 e-type bonnet [Re: Grantura_MKI]
Marvin Gruber Offline
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David,

I remember the S1 inner ducting as being shaped around the oval ends. Would have to look at the S2 to tell you correctly. The bonnets look scarey to disassemble but actually go back together pretty easy. I used epoxy to hold the brace panels on.

Marv

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#628806 - 11/30/09 11:44 AM Re: series 2 e-type bonnet [Re: Marvin Gruber]
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Registered: 04/09/05
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Hi Marvin,
I do not enjoy the disassembly process as much as the reassembly. I use a 3M epoxy sealer to fit the inner panels as well. I let them stand for 24+ hours before disturbing them. Sounds like you are doing a top job of it. Would still be curious about the front ducting.
Cheers,
David.

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#638522 - 12/31/09 04:48 PM Re: series 2 e-type bonnet [Re: Grantura_MKI]
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May I offer a simple solution? Perhaps he saw one fitted with amco bars and is comparing it to cars without? There should only be ONE style of bonnet opening for the series 2 cars. The series 1.5 suffered some effects to the placement of the headlights fore and aft as well as parking light arrangement and bumpers ect.
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