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#622733 - 11/06/09 10:01 AM Re: More Morgans - new project [Re: DrEntropy]
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You mean the simple and flexible steel chassis that the Ash body frame sits on right? wink
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#622756 - 11/06/09 11:37 AM Re: More Morgans - new project [Re: eschneider]
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Originally Posted By: eschneider
Originally Posted By: tony barnhill
Got any photos of it with the bonnet attached?


next spring -- after paint, powder coat, chrome, and upholstery.....

Just as it is would be fine by me.
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#622804 - 11/06/09 12:55 PM Re: More Morgans - new project [Re: swift6]
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Originally Posted By: swift6
You mean the simple and flexible steel chassis that the Ash body frame sits on right? wink


Yeah-yeah, Shawn. You KNOW I meant the woodwork. smirk
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#622894 - 11/06/09 04:23 PM Re: More Morgans - new project [Re: DrEntropy]
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The Kent name was used to cover a whole range of pushrod OHV Ford engines that came along in 1959, and were made in 1000, 1200, 1300, 1340, 1500, 1600 sizes that I can remember, and maybe more!
The first versions were 3-bearing for the Anglia and Classic, then the 5-bearing engine came along and finally the crossflow.
Lotus engines were built on an overbored pre-crossflow 1500, and the water pump arrangement was part of the original design.

The engine was specifically designed for the Elan, and I don't believe any Elans had any other engine fitted. I also believe that there were very few 1500 Lotus TCs and they never got into production cars.


Edited by Roger (11/06/09 04:25 PM)
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#622898 - 11/06/09 04:47 PM Re: More Morgans - new project [Re: DrEntropy]
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Originally Posted By: DrEntropy
Originally Posted By: swift6
You mean the simple and flexible steel chassis that the Ash body frame sits on right? wink


Yeah-yeah, Shawn. You KNOW I meant the woodwork. smirk


jester devil angel
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#623024 - 11/07/09 07:56 AM Re: More Morgans - new project [Re: Roger]
DrEntropy Offline
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Originally Posted By: Roger
The Kent name was used to cover a whole range of pushrod OHV Ford engines that came along in 1959, and were made in 1000, 1200, 1300, 1340, 1500, 1600 sizes that I can remember, and maybe more!
The first versions were 3-bearing for the Anglia and Classic, then the 5-bearing engine came along and finally the crossflow.
Lotus engines were built on an overbored pre-crossflow 1500, and the water pump arrangement was part of the original design.

The engine was specifically designed for the Elan, and I don't believe any Elans had any other engine fitted. I also believe that there were very few 1500 Lotus TCs and they never got into production cars.


JAP was involved in the "early" T/C head work, the first 22 Elans received the 1500cc version. International homologation rules changed in late '62, early '63 and the "1600" (1558) was then put in 'em. All were 116E Cortina blocks, "hand picked" for boring oversize to the 1558. And I was mistaken about Costin & Duckworth: Harry Mundy did the early design work. Info source is John Bolster's book.
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#623105 - 11/07/09 04:43 PM Re: More Morgans - new project [Re: DrEntropy]
Roger Offline
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Well, Doc, I use the Twin Cam "bible" - Miles Wilkins "Lotus Twin Cam Engine". I'd have thought with your Elans you'd use that too. If you can get a copy, it's worth reading.
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#623309 - 11/08/09 05:23 PM Re: More Morgans - new project [Re: Roger]
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It's here Roger... but Bolster's book was in arm's reach at the time. shocked
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#624132 - 11/11/09 08:51 PM Re: More Morgans - new project [Re: DrEntropy]
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Loc: philadelphia
Originally Posted By: DrEntropy
At just under 140 the Elan is a handful. With any more the rest of the driveline REQUIRES many cubic dollars' worth of upgrades. Would imagine that Moggie ash chassis would *splinter* without some re-enforcement with a 180 HP twink shoe-horn'd in it. shocked


Surprisingly not. Pretty sure the +8+ conversion (corvette powered +8) uses a stock chassis and ash frame.....

And the +8 crowd has been fettling with those Rover 4.0 & 4.6's to get 400+ BHP. IMHO, faster than timber was meant to travel.

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#624164 - 11/11/09 10:10 PM Re: More Morgans - new project [Re: eschneider]
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lol

+8's were always scary to me...
I just IMAGINED the creakin' an' groanin' noises HMS Victory woulda made if sail'd into a hurricane. jester devil
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