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#616865 - 10/16/09 06:12 PM Pinto is GONE!!!
WhatsThatNoise Offline
Darth Vader

Registered: 10/13/04
Posts: 2525
Loc: Shack City, Appalachia
Got my 1st weekend in the new (to me) SRF at Mid-O...



I'll never have to drive that POS again!!!
But wow...After the Pinto...This car is soooo easy.
Light and quick like the Elva...What a joy to drive.
Turned a 1:45.5 so I have some work to do to get down to 1:42 but I didn't turn a single corner to my satisfaction.
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#619090 - 10/25/09 06:02 AM Re: Pinto is GONE!!! [Re: WhatsThatNoise]
aeronca65t Offline

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Registered: 11/28/01
Posts: 9495
Loc: Northwest NJ
Cool.
My Ford is gone too. A great car, but it served its purpose (I wanted to try NASA racing and get their license).
I may still co-drive in some enduros (including one that's coming up at Summit).

Charlie Greenhaus (Entropy Racing) keeps asking me to try one of his rentals (they're Sports Renaults). Everyone I know who's driven them says they are a hoot......I should have a go in one.

G,luck with your's!
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#619093 - 10/25/09 06:21 AM Re: Pinto is GONE!!! [Re: aeronca65t]
DrEntropy Offline
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Registered: 09/15/05
Posts: 25732
Loc: Elsinore, DK
I've no clue how this bit of news got away from me but: WOW!!!

Congrats!! Very neat WTN!!!

....so who got th' Ford?
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#619310 - 10/26/09 12:22 AM Re: Pinto is GONE!!! [Re: DrEntropy]
WhatsThatNoise Offline
Darth Vader

Registered: 10/13/04
Posts: 2525
Loc: Shack City, Appalachia
I just got back from Nelson Ledges...
Turned a 1:20.900
My target was 1:20.000 so not bad for the 2nd weekend in the car.
Track record for SRF is 1:16.500 and a 1:18.000 will put you mid pack.

Love the car...
Got to follow the leaders for a short time before they pulled away.
Nial...Don't pass up a ride in the Renault.
(Mine is chassis #504 so it started life as a SR)

And yes it has a BRIT Ford engine...So I can post here thumbsup
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#619315 - 10/26/09 01:15 AM Re: Pinto is GONE!!! [Re: WhatsThatNoise]
AngliaGT Offline

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Yoda

Registered: 09/18/05
Posts: 4006
Loc: Eureka,California
How about a bit more clarification - I wasn't sure
if you meant that the Ford engine (Pinto) was replaced,
or you were replacing a Pinto racecar.
I had a friend (who also worked for Bondourant for-
a little while),who raced a SR (Spec Renault),who told
me that it was an evil-handling car.
Sorry,but it would help if you were a little more
clear for us who have been away from racing for awhile.

- Doug
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#619493 - 10/26/09 04:15 PM Re: Pinto is GONE!!! [Re: AngliaGT]
WhatsThatNoise Offline
Darth Vader

Registered: 10/13/04
Posts: 2525
Loc: Shack City, Appalachia
I bought the car in the picture...
It was a Sports Renault and later upgraded to the Ford Escort (Euro-Spec)engine making it a Spec. Racer Ford.

The Pinto is up for grabs.
A good RWD ITB car for learning as the skills directly transfer to SRF and other sport racers.

So far as handling goes...I really like it but I'm no pro.
Most say they liked the earlier cars better because there wasn't the extra 80# in the rear.
That allowed people the toss it into the corners more.
The new cars don't like big steering inputs or trail braking.
And under no circumstances lift eek
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#619500 - 10/26/09 04:52 PM Re: Pinto is GONE!!! [Re: WhatsThatNoise]
DrEntropy Offline
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Registered: 09/15/05
Posts: 25732
Loc: Elsinore, DK
Heck, hide 40# of lead in th' nose and it'll be FINE!!!! devil
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#619861 - 10/27/09 06:48 PM Re: Pinto is GONE!!! [Re: DrEntropy]
tony barnhill Offline
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Registered: 11/16/02
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Loc: Gurley, Alabama, USA
So, how many racecars does that make now?
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#619885 - 10/27/09 07:46 PM Re: Pinto is GONE!!! [Re: WhatsThatNoise]
Michael Oritt Offline
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Registered: 06/28/01
Posts: 1500
Loc: Solomons, MD, USA
Wow Dave--Big congratulations.

I don't know anything about that kind of car--where can you race it and with what groups?

Good luck and be safe and fast.
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#619912 - 10/27/09 08:39 PM Re: Pinto is GONE!!! [Re: Michael Oritt]
aeronca65t Offline

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Yoda

Registered: 11/28/01
Posts: 9495
Loc: Northwest NJ
Michael:

Dave's car (above) was originally a Sports Renault. This was a class of sport racers that the SCCA created in the early 80s.

If it still had the Renault engine, he could actually run it in VRG. In fact, last year, Mark P. gave my pal Charlie permission to run his four Sports Renaults at the VRG event at NJMP (see below). I'm not sure if you remember seeing them there (with Charlies big, yellow, crazy firetruck tow vehicle).

These days, most of these cars (inclucing Dave's) have been converted to Ford engines for a new, updated "SRF" class in the SCCA.
One of the things I like about these cars is that they were intentionally designed to be very safe and sturdy.

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#619985 - 10/28/09 06:01 AM Re: Pinto is GONE!!! [Re: aeronca65t]
WhatsThatNoise Offline
Darth Vader

Registered: 10/13/04
Posts: 2525
Loc: Shack City, Appalachia
Originally Posted By: DrEntropy
Heck, hide 40# of lead in th' nose and it'll be FINE!!!! devil

Nearly everything must meet some sort of specification.
The nose may weigh 35-65 lbs.

Since I'm one of those despised 'short forkers' (145 lb salad eaters) as opposed to many of fellow racers, I can use a heavy nose w/o going over 1670# total weight.

(And I still have to add 60# of ballast in the side pods...Also an advantage because it is forward and low as opposed to having it where the ice cream crowd has their ballast)

Originally Posted By: tony barnhill
So, how many racecars does that make now?

1 auto-Xer...Elva
1 SCCA car...The SRF
And 1 soon to be gone Pinto grin
(I gave the LaDawri to my brother since he just sold his TVR and needs something to keep him busy this winter)
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#620521 - 10/30/09 06:33 AM Re: Pinto is GONE!!! [Re: WhatsThatNoise]
DrEntropy Offline
Great Pumpkin

Registered: 09/15/05
Posts: 25732
Loc: Elsinore, DK
Originally Posted By: Dave
(And I still have to add 60# of ballast in the side pods...Also an advantage because it is forward and low as opposed to having it where the ice cream crowd has their ballast)


THAT'S what I'm talkin' 'bout!!! And as far forward as ya can. thumbsup
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#620534 - 10/30/09 07:45 AM Re: Pinto is GONE!!! [Re: WhatsThatNoise]
tr8todd Offline
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Registered: 08/25/06
Posts: 614
Loc: mass.
Hasn't there been a lot of chatter lately about changing the engines once again to a Mazda power plant? I thought I saw something back in the Spring that the estimated cost for the kit would be somewhere around 12k. Keeping those old Fords running is getting difficult and Mazda promised to keep their motor in production for 10 more years. I remember when the SCCA first started talking about swapping the Renaults for Fords. There was a time there when the Renault powered cars were real cheap. I guess nobody wanted to buy a car and then spend a ton of cash to re-power it.

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#620823 - 10/31/09 12:17 AM Re: Pinto is GONE!!! [Re: tr8todd]
WhatsThatNoise Offline
Darth Vader

Registered: 10/13/04
Posts: 2525
Loc: Shack City, Appalachia
The word is we have at least 5 more years before engine parts get critical.

I've been racing the Pinto for the last 5 years and it seems like forever.


(Mid-O Sprints Oct 2009)
It was cold, wet & I had no idea how to drive the car but I still had a blast.
(My brother is in the red striped hat)

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#620997 - 10/31/09 05:18 PM Re: Pinto is GONE!!! [Re: WhatsThatNoise]
tony barnhill Offline
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Registered: 11/16/02
Posts: 25084
Loc: Gurley, Alabama, USA
So, just out of curiosity, what price range do those go for?
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#621004 - 10/31/09 05:45 PM Re: Pinto is GONE!!! [Re: tony barnhill]
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Darth Vader

Registered: 10/13/04
Posts: 2525
Loc: Shack City, Appalachia
I got a killer deal at $14,000...
(I also waited 2 years to find it)

Generally speaking...

$16,000 for one that is a regional level car.
$18,000 for a national level car.
$27,500 for a brand new one.
$7,000 for a perfect Renault or a Ford that is bent in half grin
(The Renault to Ford conversion kit is $10,500)
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#624121 - 11/11/09 07:52 PM Re: Pinto is GONE!!! [Re: aeronca65t]
WhatsThatNoise Offline
Darth Vader

Registered: 10/13/04
Posts: 2525
Loc: Shack City, Appalachia
Originally Posted By: aeronca65t

If it still had the Renault engine, he could actually run it in VRG. In fact, last year, Mark P. gave my pal Charlie permission to run his four Sports Renaults at the VRG event at NJMP (see below). I'm not sure if you remember seeing them there (with Charlies big, yellow, crazy firetruck tow vehicle).

Heads up to your friend Charlie...

There is a 25 year reunion this year and he is invited.

http://www.specracer.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4712
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#624216 - 11/12/09 09:13 AM Re: Pinto is GONE!!! [Re: WhatsThatNoise]
aeronca65t Offline

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Yoda

Registered: 11/28/01
Posts: 9495
Loc: Northwest NJ
Thanks.
Charlie is The King of all things about sport racers so I bet he knows.
And what he doesn't know about them, his customers do.
But I'll let him know just to be sure. thumbsup
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