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#612972 - 10/01/09 04:49 PM 60's Jag BRG ??
iain42 Offline
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Registered: 10/01/09
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Loc: little rock, arkansas
Greetings,

This may be a bit unorthodox but I wanted to consult the experts on BRG. I have a vintage British Garrard turntable that I am restoring. I'm in the process of building a plinth to set it in. The color I have chosen for the large plinth is 60's Jag BRG. There are plenty of auto paint places to have this done but not to get the proper paint color mixed. Can you imagine what I would get since I am in Arkansas? Probably lime green with a stripe. Is there a magic paint code I can give an auto paint store to have this painted properly? Any advice much appreciated. If you consider this spam or inappropriate for your forum I am very sorry. I'm just wanting some proper BRG.

Thanks,
Iain

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#612981 - 10/01/09 05:15 PM Re: 60's Jag BRG ?? [Re: iain42]
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I suspect you'd want what is commonly called BRG #2, for a mid-sixties MGB for it to be "proper". Ditzler/PPG should have it listed as such.
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#613144 - 10/02/09 08:14 AM Re: 60's Jag BRG ?? [Re: DrEntropy]
MGZT260 Offline
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You've stumbled into an area of mis-conceptions that there is one true BRG. Even lime green (as long as numbers are white) could be considered BRG. Choice is yours to make but esthetically I do prefer the mid-60's BRG or even Spruce Green http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_racing_green
Also:BLMC (MG)


and late 60's Jag


Note that Jag offered two BRG's both which appear to be much darker and deeper than traditional MG.
Here's where it can get interesting, and fun - and save you a bundle in the process.

If you were painting an entire car you would need a gallon or at least 2 or 3 quarts and reducer, etc and material cost even for a proper mixed quart of sprayable green could run as high as $50. There are some online outfits taht will formulate the exact green you want and put it in a 10-11 oz spray can for around $20. BUT for sometimes as little $4.97 you can score a spray can of RustOleum brand paint that in Hunter Green will come pretty close to what you want. Nice thing about the R brand is you can get the same color today and 10 years from today, in a variety of textiures and finishes that will all complement each other. PLus, if teh turntable is not parked next to a car and you tell friends it is BRG who are they to nit-pick. Road trip to Lowes or Ace Hardware may surprise you.


Edited by MGZT260 (10/02/09 08:18 AM)

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#613285 - 10/02/09 06:55 PM Re: 60's Jag BRG ?? [Re: MGZT260]
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#613401 - 10/03/09 11:57 AM Re: 60's Jag BRG ?? [Re: Exotexs]
equiprx Offline
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And to think that BRG originated an a French built racer.

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#613450 - 10/03/09 06:26 PM Re: 60's Jag BRG ?? [Re: equiprx]
tony barnhill Offline

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Dark BRG medium BRG, new BRG...plus a few I probably forgot...a good auto paint supplier should be able to find what you want on his computer - with the correct formula.
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#613948 - 10/05/09 03:55 PM Re: 60's Jag BRG ?? [Re: iain42]
PhilW Offline
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Registered: 06/06/04
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Hi,

I thought my brother was the only one with an old Garrard turntable with the high tech wooden arm.

Phil.

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#613989 - 10/05/09 07:47 PM Re: 60's Jag BRG ?? [Re: PhilW]
MGZT260 Offline
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I've got my dad's Garrard from about 1965 and it's as modern as you can get, ie. no wood except base.

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#613990 - 10/05/09 07:47 PM Re: 60's Jag BRG ?? [Re: PhilW]
iain42 Offline
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Registered: 10/01/09
Posts: 2
Loc: little rock, arkansas


Thanks for all the great advice everyone. I have had trouble replying to post but it seems better now.


: )

Vintage Garrards are great. This is the before.


Edited by iain42 (10/05/09 07:50 PM)

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#614088 - 10/06/09 10:45 AM Re: 60's Jag BRG ?? [Re: equiprx]
Roger Offline
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Registered: 05/20/02
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Originally Posted By: equiprx
And to think that BRG originated an a French built racer.


That's interesting, I hadn't heard that before. Do explain, please!

The generally accepted view is that the Napier team for the 1903 Gordon Bennett trophy which was held in Ireland since racing wasn't allowed on public roads in England, Scotland or Wales, were painted green in honour of the host country. That shade of dark green, which used to be available in England as Napier Green, is the orignal BRG.
In some quarters it is suggested that the 1902 team were painted green, but nobody seems to remember accurately nowadays.


Edited by Roger (10/06/09 10:48 AM)
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#614099 - 10/06/09 12:22 PM Re: 60's Jag BRG ?? [Re: Roger]
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I believe I got the information on one of the 'Victory by Design' episodes by Alex de Cadenet. The french builder would not ship the car in the customary French Racing Blue because of the non french driver.

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