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#589632 - 07/02/09 06:42 AM
Fuel Gauge - new thread
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Yoda
Registered: 11/15/04
Posts: 4878
Loc: Long Branch, Ontario
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Didn't want to hijack the other thread on the gauge running empty. but, this was posted there
"First, that gauge has to be grounded or it will always read empty. If it goes to hard full and the tank is not then that suggests a break or bad connection in the wire between the gauge and the sender. A bad ground at the sender will do the same. If it goes to hard empty then that suggests a short in that same wire. I really don't think the lights are related. Be sure you have a green wire to the B post of the gauge and a green/black to the T post. The case must be grounded. If you remove the green/black from the T post and check its resistance, it should be somewhere between 0 (empty) and 70 (full)."
I run our of gas when the gauge shows 1/4 tank. it is a new tank and a new gauge (VB) what should I be thinking of doing?
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#589662 - 07/02/09 08:36 AM
Re: Fuel Gauge - new thread
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Jedi Knight
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Loc: Macedonia, OH
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Check to make sure the voltage stabilizer is pulsing on and off; if it is stuck on, it might be making your gauge read high. A multimeter should show it turning on and off a few times each second. It's on the bulkhead inside and above the glove box, and I believe the output side is the green and purple wire.
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#589665 - 07/02/09 08:40 AM
Re: Fuel Gauge - new thread
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Jedi Warrior
Registered: 03/02/07
Posts: 518
Loc: Oklahoma
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What is the right output voltage from the stabilizer? It would be a lot easier to check that than the on/off cycles.
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#589869 - 07/02/09 09:43 PM
Re: Fuel Gauge - new thread
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Yoda
Registered: 11/15/04
Posts: 4878
Loc: Long Branch, Ontario
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First off, let me say thanks and that this might be a good winter project. That being said,
Kim, thanks for your advice - it is a brand new sender so I'm hoping it isn't worn.
The gauge does indeed read full when it is full.
The temp gauge (which is mechanical) does not read high - it reads fine. However, it seems to jump occasionally. Everything else works perfectly.
I'll check the stabilizer though likely later as I don't really want to pull the glove box.
I presume if it isn't working I won't do any damage will it?
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Ms. Triss 1976 Midget 1500 Little Car, Big World
Luigi 1958 Fiat Mutipla 600 Can you say basket case?
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#589907 - 07/03/09 06:47 AM
Re: Fuel Gauge - new thread
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Yoda
Registered: 11/15/04
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Loc: Long Branch, Ontario
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The only thing in my midget that uses the stabilizer is the fuel gauge, the temp is purely a mechanical bourbon tube type. I replaced my stabilizer with a solid state mod diy project that I am sure someone on here has the plans for. For testing purposes you can use batteries to get the 10v. Not sure I understand - OK, I'm positive I don't understand - I hook up the fuel gauge to 10v? then it should read accurately?
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Ms. Triss 1976 Midget 1500 Little Car, Big World
Luigi 1958 Fiat Mutipla 600 Can you say basket case?
2004 Mazda6 Sport Wagon Zoom Zoom
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#589908 - 07/03/09 06:54 AM
Re: Fuel Gauge - new thread
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Darth Vader
Registered: 02/17/04
Posts: 2815
Loc: Asheville, North Carolina
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The only thing in my midget that uses the stabilizer is the fuel gauge, the temp is purely a mechanical bourbon tube type. I replaced my stabilizer with a solid state mod diy project that I am sure someone on here has the plans for. For testing purposes you can use batteries to get the 10v. Not sure I understand - OK, I'm positive I don't understand - I hook up the fuel gauge to 10v? then it should read accurately? No, what I meant was that you can use 10v from batteries to test your system without using the stabilizer and then see if it reads accurately. If you have the correct gauge then it was meant to operate off of 10v from the stabilizer, reason being is the generator output was weak with the headlights and heater blower on and the system voltage would drop down low at stop lights and if the gauge was made for 12v then it would not read correctly. The system would almost stay above 10v, so they came up with the stabilizer to keep it at a constant 10v average.
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#589911 - 07/03/09 07:17 AM
Re: Fuel Gauge - new thread
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Yoda
Registered: 03/28/05
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The very simplest version of the solid-state stabilizer replacement can be found in this JPG link from my friend Wes. http://www.adocars.com/elf-ado/elf/elfimages/v-reg.jpgIf you want to try a more packaged arrangement or use components from Radio Shack, you can follow the steps in my PDF. http://home.mindspring.com/~purlawson/files/SmithsVoltageStabilizer.pdf If you don't want to make your own (and the chips are available from Mouser.com), Moss now sells solid-state stabilizers for under $20 in both positive and negative ground. As Kim said, supplying the gauge with 10V directly (instead of off the car's wiring) is a good test to see if the stabilizer is working. As a footnote to this, the project Spitfire I'm working on came to me with a new radiator and electric radiator fans. When I started poking around I found a previous owner "dismounted" the voltage stabilizer so it was hanging by its wires without an earth connection. To them, the car ran hot (hence the new parts). Once the stabilizer got its ground back the gauge indicated the real temperature... about 30% cooler.
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