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#589388 - 07/01/09 10:02 AM Brass freeze plugs for 1275...
lbc_newbie Offline
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Anyone know where to find these? I checked APT, Mo$$ and VB... Need 'em quick!
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Snohomish, WA

'78 Midget "Midge"
1275
210 4-speed
Restoration: Never ending

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/3316031507/in/photostream/

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#589397 - 07/01/09 10:26 AM Re: Brass freeze plugs for 1275... [Re: lbc_newbie]
Trevor Jessie Offline

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Why brass?
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#589402 - 07/01/09 10:34 AM Re: Brass freeze plugs for 1275... [Re: Trevor Jessie]
lbc_newbie Offline
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It was suggested by the machine shop....
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Edward (ED just doesn't sound right these days).
Snohomish, WA

'78 Midget "Midge"
1275
210 4-speed
Restoration: Never ending

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/3316031507/in/photostream/

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#589410 - 07/01/09 10:48 AM Re: Brass freeze plugs for 1275... [Re: lbc_newbie]
Trevor Jessie Offline

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OK, I just assume that I'll need to rebuild my engine before mine will corrode.
They are sometimes referred to as welch plugs.
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#589414 - 07/01/09 11:11 AM Re: Brass freeze plugs for 1275... [Re: Trevor Jessie]
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Not sure what you mean by that... It was a recommendation by the machinist, so I thought they were readily available.
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Edward (ED just doesn't sound right these days).
Snohomish, WA

'78 Midget "Midge"
1275
210 4-speed
Restoration: Never ending

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/3316031507/in/photostream/

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#589419 - 07/01/09 11:29 AM Re: Brass freeze plugs for 1275... [Re: lbc_newbie]
RonMacPherson Online   content
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Registered: 03/06/07
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Any good parts supplier, Napa, CarQuest, etc. that carries Dorman products should have them on hand, or available from their local warehouse.

Might do a search for Dorman Hardware...

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#589421 - 07/01/09 12:11 PM Re: Brass freeze plugs for 1275... [Re: RonMacPherson]
aeronca65t Offline

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Yes, steel one are avialable easily (as mentioned, Dorman and others make them as well as in the Moss catalog).

But *brass* ones might be another story.

I'm sure you could have them made up, but I can't recall ever seeing them in a 1275 engine myself.

The steel ones in my MGB are 40 years old...still seem to be OK.

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#589455 - 07/01/09 02:55 PM Re: Brass freeze plugs for 1275... [Re: aeronca65t]
Dug Offline

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Loc: Oregon
Ed,
How many do you need? I do have them. Someone will chime in and also tell you that "if" the engine is apart you could simply tap the holes 1/8" NPT and use brass, stainless or zinc plated pipe plugs. But if you need brass press in style plugs I can help.
Dug

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#589468 - 07/01/09 03:22 PM Re: Brass freeze plugs for 1275... [Re: Dug]
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Dug, you da man! I just sent you an IM. cool
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Edward (ED just doesn't sound right these days).
Snohomish, WA

'78 Midget "Midge"
1275
210 4-speed
Restoration: Never ending

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/3316031507/in/photostream/

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#589473 - 07/01/09 03:48 PM Re: Brass freeze plugs for 1275... [Re: lbc_newbie]
Hap Waldrop Offline

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Sounds like the machinist may be a bit A series iffy, the 1275s have bullit proof freeze/core plugs, now if we were talking about 948/1098 or a MGB I could buy that, but brass freeze plug, whats up with that, sure he didn't say oil galley plug, if so I tap for NPT plugs as well.


Edited by Hap Waldrop (07/01/09 03:49 PM)
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#589504 - 07/01/09 05:04 PM Re: Brass freeze plugs for 1275... [Re: Hap Waldrop]
Dug Offline

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I'm thinking they are asking for galley plugs. That's what I sent Ed.
If I'm wrong then Ed has some galley plugs he will not need,but a bigger problem with the shop his engines at.
Dug

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#589507 - 07/01/09 05:08 PM Re: Brass freeze plugs for 1275... [Re: Dug]
Trevor Jessie Offline

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But wouldn't a machine shop have a large assortment of brass plugs on hand?
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#589513 - 07/01/09 05:26 PM Re: Brass freeze plugs for 1275... [Re: Trevor Jessie]
Hap Waldrop Offline

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Most engines beside our ours don't use brass plugs, Cheeeeeevies smile smile use little cup plugs. Actually what they are you'd never find today anywhere but a British vendor the orgignal are tapered brass plugs, I never reinstalled them, always used NPT plugs, that habit comes form my racing background.
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#589516 - 07/01/09 05:33 PM Re: Brass freeze plugs for 1275... [Re: Hap Waldrop]
Trevor Jessie Offline

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Yoda

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OK... the the machine shop I use has several bins of them, but they do work on many vintage and antique engines both foreign and domestic. I just assumed that the plugs were common enough for everyone to keep on hand.
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1275 SuperCharged
Datsun 5-speed
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#589522 - 07/01/09 06:08 PM Re: Brass freeze plugs for 1275... [Re: Trevor Jessie]
lbc_newbie Offline
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Are the NPT plugs the ones that Moss sells?
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Edward (ED just doesn't sound right these days).
Snohomish, WA

'78 Midget "Midge"
1275
210 4-speed
Restoration: Never ending

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/3316031507/in/photostream/

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#589533 - 07/01/09 06:58 PM Re: Brass freeze plugs for 1275... [Re: lbc_newbie]
Dug Offline

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I’m allergic to moss so I couldn’t say. However you should have a Fastenal store nearby and the part number(s) you would want to look for are
73390 for stainless
94132 for zinc plated steel
80743 for brass
That's a good route to go, you will have a choice as the press in ones are on their way.

Dug

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#589688 - 07/02/09 09:52 AM Re: Brass freeze plugs for 1275... [Re: Hap Waldrop]
lbc_newbie Offline
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Originally Posted By: Hap Waldrop
Most engines beside our ours don't use brass plugs, Cheeeeeevies smile smile use little cup plugs. Actually what they are you'd never find today anywhere but a British vendor the orgignal are tapered brass plugs, I never reinstalled them, always used NPT plugs, that habit comes form my racing background.


I think I've made it obvious that I'm not an experienced engine builder. I appreciate all the feedback. Still looking for a supplier for the NPT product. I don't see anything specific to the A Series for expansion plugs. Any help is appreciated in providing size, quantity and location of these.
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Edward (ED just doesn't sound right these days).
Snohomish, WA

'78 Midget "Midge"
1275
210 4-speed
Restoration: Never ending

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/3316031507/in/photostream/

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#589692 - 07/02/09 10:17 AM Re: Brass freeze plugs for 1275... [Re: lbc_newbie]
Billm Offline

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Loc: Renton, Washington
Ed
Any nut & bolt house will have what you are looking for (threaded plugs).
"HiStrength Bolt" in Kent has a great selection and I can pick-up anything you want when I stop by there (often).
BillM
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#589694 - 07/02/09 10:27 AM Re: Brass freeze plugs for 1275... [Re: Billm]
lbc_newbie Offline
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Not looking for the threaded plugs, but the freeze plugs that go on the side of the block (and elsewhere?). Moss calls it a "Core plug set" At this point, I'll settle for it. I need to get this moving forward.. thanks all!
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Edward (ED just doesn't sound right these days).
Snohomish, WA

'78 Midget "Midge"
1275
210 4-speed
Restoration: Never ending

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/3316031507/in/photostream/

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#589727 - 07/02/09 11:57 AM Re: Brass freeze plugs for 1275... [Re: lbc_newbie]
Dug Offline

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Loc: Oregon
Ed,
Opps, well you will now have a set of galley plugs. From your last post you do need Expansion plugs, freeze plugs, soft plugs and or welch plugs to use just a few different names for the same thing.
If the shop tells you there are 5, three on the side and two at the back then expansion plugs "are" what you needed. Ron called it correctly. Steel (zinc plated) is 100% good.
Dorman is a common brand, size is 1-21/64" Dorman part number is 555-072. Napa (seal power) part number is 3812127. Even easier to come by.
Dug

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