BritishCarForum

Contact Us
Top Posters
DrEntropy 25740
tony barnhill 25084
jlaird 18906
Basil 13874
aeronca65t 9499
Brosky 9389
Bugeye58 9330
Steve_S 8526
Steve 8478
bugimike 8253
Help & Information
What's New!
Forum Rules
Advertise on BCF!
Web Hosting at BCF
FAQ
Helpful Tips (Random)
Site Links
About BCF
Classifieds
Links
Live Chat
Supporting Vendors
BCF WIKI
Virtual Rally
**BCF CARDS**
Member Links
Members' Articles
Members' Artwork
Members' BLOGS
Members' Pictures
Members' Car Clubs
Member Web Sites**
Members'Map
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
Hop to:
#577524 - 05/18/09 10:28 PM Stupid Q dejour - horn push/badge won't stay put!
livinginthepast Offline
Jedi Hopeful

Registered: 05/07/09
Posts: 189
Loc: Covington, wa
Will someone please help me understand how the hornpush/badge is supposed to lock into the steering wheel hub?

I purchased the car with the hornpush removed and never could figure out how to get it to stay in place. Frankly, I don't even know if I have all the right hardware. On the back of the push/badge there is a wire clip that appears to have something to do with solving this mystery, but nothing else stands out.

Any suggestions appreciated!

Thanks!
_________________________
Bill West
1960 Austin Healey Sprite - the Cheshire Frog
"A Bugeye is more like a pet than a car..."

Top
#577550 - 05/19/09 03:46 AM Re: Stupid Q dejour - horn push/badge won't stay put! [Re: livinginthepast]
toysrrus Offline
Bronze Member
Obi Wan

Registered: 12/05/06
Posts: 2054
Loc: Pickens, SC
Hi There livinginthepast,

I have the same problem. Doing some reading; I believe there is supposed to be a "Groove" inside the steering wheel hub for that "Spring Clip" to fit into & secure the "Horn Push" but I`ll be darned if I can find or see it??

So; Anyone out there have some suggestions?

Thanx, Russ
_________________________
member BCF; VTR; FBCC; BCCLV; DVT; JCNA; DVJC; FBCC:
`57TR3 Small Mouth under rest. `65TR4 waiting in the wings:
"SPACE... GRACE... PACE":

Top
#577554 - 05/19/09 06:15 AM Re: Stupid Q dejour - horn push/badge won't stay put! [Re: toysrrus]
Sarastro Offline

Gold Member
Jedi Knight

Registered: 07/06/06
Posts: 1123
Loc: California
That semicircular piece of wire doesn't so much hold it in place as make the electrical contact to the body of the steering wheel hub. You'll notice that there is a metal patch it contacts.

Not sure what kind of car you have or how the button varied over the years. The horn-button assembly, at least on my Bugeye, is held in place by three clips on its periphery. These have a pointed part that digs into the body of the steering wheel, supposedly holding the whole thing in place. Invariably, these points lose their sharpness or form a groove where they mate with the steering wheel hub, and even if you have the clips, they don't hold well any more.

In short, it's just one more uninspired design, among many others.

I had to fill that wear groove with epoxy to get mine to hold. I also found that wedging a little thick paper (say, a strip from a business card) between the button assembly and the steering wheel hub could also hold it more or less well. This, by itself, might work if you've lost the clips, which sounds like it might be the case.

If you figure out some clever way to keep that thing in place reliably, please let us all know.
_________________________
Steve Maas
1960 Bugeye Sprite
1967 Porsche 912
http://www.nonlintec.com/sprite

Top
#577563 - 05/19/09 07:25 AM Re: Stupid Q dejour - horn push/badge won't stay put! [Re: Sarastro]
drooartz Online   content

Gold Member
Yoda

Registered: 03/11/05
Posts: 5508
Loc: Utah, USA
I used a bit of paperboard wedged around the button when I was using the original steering wheel. That seemed to help keep everything in place. This was on a Bugeye.
_________________________
Drew Frink -- http://www.drooartz.com
'59 AH Sprite (The Tunebug), '07 Triumph Bonneville, '09 Honda Fit Sport
"Isn’t it cute how, no matter now much work a Bugeye needs, he still smiles?" -- my wife

Top
#577567 - 05/19/09 07:57 AM Re: Stupid Q dejour - horn push/badge won't stay put! [Re: drooartz]
Pythias Offline

Gold Member
Jedi Warrior

Registered: 04/01/08
Posts: 510
Loc: Kelso, Washington
At least on the MK III Sprite, It's a push and TURN deal. Shove it in and give it a little twist, If I recall correctly, anti-clockwise, but maybe the other way. It will be sounding while you do this unless you pull the fuse. I'm not sure how they work for other models.


Edited by Pythias (05/19/09 07:58 AM)
_________________________
Bill L.

1966 Sprite MK III - "the red thing"
HAN8L49403

President, Pacific Northwest Chapter,
Sprite Midget Club, USA
(Excepting Greater Seattle)

Top
#577575 - 05/19/09 08:34 AM Re: Stupid Q dejour - horn push/badge won't stay put! [Re: Sarastro]
livinginthepast Offline
Jedi Hopeful

Registered: 05/07/09
Posts: 189
Loc: Covington, wa
Aha! I suspected as much! This is a 61 bugeye (well, a 60 first registered in 61)and I was wondering what the fix would be if it turned out that it was just friction that held it in place. Great tip re. the epoxy. Thanks!
_________________________
Bill West
1960 Austin Healey Sprite - the Cheshire Frog
"A Bugeye is more like a pet than a car..."

Top
#577576 - 05/19/09 08:36 AM Re: Stupid Q dejour - horn push/badge won't stay put! [Re: livinginthepast]
livinginthepast Offline
Jedi Hopeful

Registered: 05/07/09
Posts: 189
Loc: Covington, wa
The cardstock is also a nice, quick fix.

I don't have any clips at all, other than the small wire semi-circle (that, as was pointed out, may be related more to electrics than securing the horn push).

Thanks for all the suggestions!
_________________________
Bill West
1960 Austin Healey Sprite - the Cheshire Frog
"A Bugeye is more like a pet than a car..."

Top
#577577 - 05/19/09 08:37 AM Re: Stupid Q dejour - horn push/badge won't stay put! [Re: livinginthepast]
jlaird Offline

Bronze Member
Great Pumpkin

Registered: 11/13/05
Posts: 18906
Loc: Niceville FL
A bit of epoxy is the trick, it does work.
_________________________
Jack Laird
Retired USAF


AN5L 24515, Eng. 9C-U-H 16218, Apr. 1959
"Miss Agatha" On the road again and smiling.

We were there, Lake of the Ozarks, 2008!!
We gona be at Euro Fest 2011, see you there.


Top
#577683 - 05/19/09 03:55 PM Re: Stupid Q dejour - horn push/badge won't stay put! [Re: jlaird]
HAN8L1965 Offline

Silver Member
Jedi Trainee

Registered: 01/07/06
Posts: 342
Loc: Ohio, Lewis Center
On the 65 Sprite there are two ears on the inside of the steering wheel hub. With the spring in place and the copper cap behind it it twist about a quarter tun onto these ears. There is also a little plastic sleve and spring that fits down into the center of the steering column where there is an electrical contact. My sleeve had broken but I found the barrel of a ball point pen cut to length was a perfect replacement. The sleeve keeps the contact from touching the back of the horn push until you push on it to blow it. This is a little hard to line up and then twist into place.

Mark
_________________________
Mark

Little Blue
1965 Sprite MKIII

Top


Moderator:  aeronca65t 
Forum Stats
10958 Members
44 Forums
63156 Topics
625443 Posts

Max Online: 385 @ 06/22/07 11:08 AM
Who's Online
52 registered (booley, Darwin, Billm, drooartz, BabaKahawa, bgbassplyr, charlie74, alsmith, ekamm, Brosky, dhines, Ed_K, 72spit6, 14dna, AngliaGT, dklawson, abarth69, 3 invisible), 41 Guests and 12 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
jamesC, Dutchmidget, NormHall, jgaxkr, dreamer1uk
10958 Registered Users
Member's Pictures
602/thumbs/wheels_small.JPG
by MG4AG
511/thumbs/wheels_small.JPG
by MG4AG
602/thumbs/Small_engine.JPG
by MG4AG
511/thumbs/Small_engine.JPG
by MG4AG
516/thumbs/Race_City-1.jpg
by andyhardie