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#495597 - 08/31/08 09:41 AM Re: BN1 transmission [Re: pan]
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Jedi Knight

Registered: 12/27/04
Posts: 828
Loc: OZ
pan,

I acquired a Hampshire as a donor car last year, came with 16" rims, same as listed on my cert, non O/D box, however I've been told cogs are same ratio, just different angle on teeth. ie replace as a total not individual, I bought it in the hope the brass synchros are interchangeable

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#495738 - 08/31/08 07:34 PM Re: BN1 transmission [Re: pan]
gblawson Offline
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Registered: 05/27/08
Posts: 75
Loc: Niagara/Ont/Canada
I have the same transmission... only to move the 'big' girl, they use the actual 1st gear.... you can drive yours knowing there is another gear in there, it just not needed for such a light car!

Be glad you don't have the 'linkage' I do.....

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#497487 - 09/06/08 05:49 PM Re: BN1 transmission [Re: gblawson]
pan Offline
Jedi Hopeful

Registered: 11/26/05
Posts: 152
Loc: Queensland,Australia
Hi gblawson,
I am afraid I cannot identify your car! Is it an Austin? The gearchange lever at the left of the seat is interesting. The Austin saloons which used the similar transmission to the 100 all have column shift, operated by cables.

zblu, I also have been advised that it is necessary to use the gear-set from an A70 type trans. I have one but as yet have never had to resort to using it.
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#497507 - 09/06/08 06:24 PM Re: BN1 transmission [Re: gblawson]
anthony7777 Offline
Yoda

Registered: 04/07/05
Posts: 3050
Loc: stamford ct.
gblawson, what dah ....? crazyeyes

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#497747 - 09/07/08 03:30 PM Re: BN1 transmission [Re: anthony7777]
gblawson Offline
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Registered: 05/27/08
Posts: 75
Loc: Niagara/Ont/Canada
1956/7 Wolseley 6/90 .... Photos on my photos page
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#497871 - 09/07/08 09:50 PM Re: BN1 transmission [Re: gblawson]
pan Offline
Jedi Hopeful

Registered: 11/26/05
Posts: 152
Loc: Queensland,Australia
Mr. Lawson,
I do not think that the Wolseley 6/90 used the same transmission as the early Austin-Healey 100. By 1956 the Healey had gone to the BN2 "C Type" transmission and the A70 had been superceded by the A90 Six & A95.
I am still fascinated by the left hand lever. I have only seen this on Bentleys and the early Riley Pathfinder.
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#497959 - 09/08/08 08:34 AM Re: BN1 transmission [Re: pan]
gblawson Offline
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Registered: 05/27/08
Posts: 75
Loc: Niagara/Ont/Canada
I was under the impression it was the same transmission with the side gear change...and that on the AH 1st was locked out. My info could be incorrect, however, here is a bit of it:

Production Austin-Healey 100s were finished at BMC's Longbridge plant alongside the A90 and based on fully trimmed and painted body/chassis units produced by Jensen in West Bromwich. The first 100s ("BN1"), were equipped with the same 90 hp (67 kW) engines and manual transmission as the stock A90 but the transmission was modified to be a three speed unit with overdrive on second and top.

Healey had been using the big BMC saloon running gear, in the 2.6 litre four cylinder Austin Healey 100, and in 1956 adopted the 'C' series to make the sports car the 100/6. This was the Austin A105 engine with the Wolseley twin SUs and 102bhp, giving excellent performance. The cylinderhead was soon improved with a decent manifold, and power grew to 117bhp @ 4750rpm.


In 1954 the new Wolseley 6/90 was introduced with a new BMC twin SU Six cylinder engine, called the 'C' series, of 2693cc and four main bearings. It used the same 89mm stroke of the 'B' series, and also shared its timing sprockets, chain, and cover, with the smaller 'A' and 'B' series. This 95bhp Wolseley was a fast car, and many Police Forces purchased them. The sister car, the Riley 2.6, gained the same engine in 1956. Prior to the better known Wolseley, a Morris 'Isis' six cylinder car was shown at the 1954 Motor Show. It had an 85bhp 'C' series engine with a single SU carburettor.
The new engine was a product of Morris Engines, not Austin, and things like the camshaft being on the opposite side to the 'A' and 'B' series, a proper Reynolds chain tensioner, as well as solid little ends, show the design differences. However, Morris Engines had put the cylinder head holding down studs through the cast-in-situ inlet manifold, not good practice for good airflow. This six cylinder engine gave the big BMC saloons the edge on their Ford and Vauxhall competition, as it had more torque, even though the Austin A90 version in late 1954 still used a down-draught Zenith carburettor.
It was about this time BMC were improving the Riley Pathfinder that used the high-camshaft Riley four cylinder engine. The replacement model was to be called the Riley 2.6, and used the BMC 'C' series. An M.G. version was almost made as a development car, but never taken seriously. More interesting was a 'Z' Magnette fitted with a 'C' series engine giving very good straight line performance.
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#498522 - 09/10/08 04:02 AM Re: BN1 transmission [Re: gblawson]
pan Offline
Jedi Hopeful

Registered: 11/26/05
Posts: 152
Loc: Queensland,Australia
Mr Lawson,
I will not take up the argument about the similarities between the Austin C-Series engine and the smaller A & B Series as I don't know enough about them.
What makes it difficult is the model numbering of those '50s Austins. The A90 Atlantic and the various A70 cars were four cylinder powered. The following saloon model with the 2,639cc six was called A90 Six. This must have confused everybody so it became the A95. In Australia this car was also badged as the Morris Marshall!
To my knowledge, the Healey sixes were the only BMC products to use the 12 port head.
Just to throw a further spanner in the works, in the days when we used to actually make stuff in Australia, BMC manufactured a 2.4 litre six cylinder based on the 1,622cc B Series four. This engine (the Blue Streak Six) was considered for use in the MGC before they decided to bugger up the 2,912cc Healey engine.
The Pathfinder was the last Riley to use the high cam four (also used on the early Healey cars) and I have seen one of these with the side shift gearbox, probably to make room for a "bench" front seat but avoid a column shift.
Remember that the Healey BN1 has a "wrong way round" gear pattern. Does the Wolselsey have this, too?
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