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#453683 - 05/04/08 10:24 PM 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix?
58Custom Offline
Jedi Hopeful

Registered: 04/17/08
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My 1969 was originally equipped with a heater but the box, fan motor, inlet flange and tubing were missing when I bought it. I am gathering the parts for the heater but I don't know what type of inlet I should be looking for. Does anyone have a pix?
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#454208 - 05/06/08 09:25 AM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: 58Custom]
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A description would be Ok, just something for me to go on in case I see one on Ebay or something. I'd like to get the right one.
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#454214 - 05/06/08 09:33 AM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: 58Custom]
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Registered: 01/01/07
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You mean just a picture of the heater box & hose? Should be easy to see on most engine bay pictures... be aware, I think that the later versions (1500) have the inlet hose on the opposite side of the car.
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#454279 - 05/06/08 11:41 AM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: tosoutherncars]
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Jedi Hopeful

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Originally Posted By: tosoutherncars
You mean just a picture of the heater box & hose? Should be easy to see on most engine bay pictures... be aware, I think that the later versions (1500) have the inlet hose on the opposite side of the car.


No, I mean the inlet behind the grill. Mine is missing. There were changes over the years to that part before the 1969 MKIII model I have. I just want an idea what I am looking for.

It's hard to know what parts to look for when parts are missing and one is a newb to Midgets as I am. I have the resto book, I have searched the web for pix using Yahoo and Google image searches and I check Ebay daily. The heater box I bought is similar to 1969 but is earlier I believe because it has the metal snorkel with the flapper in it. I think 1969 had the flapper in the fan inlet? I don't have a fan or the behind the grill inlet yet.

It does not have to be correct because this car is a driver, but I want to make sure that the behind the grill inlet I get will fit.
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#454288 - 05/06/08 12:03 PM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: 58Custom]
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Aaah! So the cutout in the sheet metal, that the lower end of the fresh air intake hose feeds to? Pretty sure it's 4" round?
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#454292 - 05/06/08 12:14 PM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: tosoutherncars]
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Isn't it part of the nose cone assembly?
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#454317 - 05/06/08 01:02 PM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: Trevor Jessie]
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IT is part of the front valence. There is a cutover there bit I've never been able to figure out how the heater hose gets around the fender support brace. That runs directly in back of the opening in the valence.

I simply let the heater hose hang down into the airstream. Get good airflow at low speeds.
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#454522 - 05/06/08 09:48 PM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: Jim_Gruber]
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Jedi Hopeful

Registered: 04/17/08
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Here is a pix of the area.





Edited by 58Custom (05/06/08 09:49 PM)
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#454603 - 05/07/08 07:14 AM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: 58Custom]
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Your only missing a short 2" long 4" diameter tube with a flange.
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#454633 - 05/07/08 08:59 AM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: Trevor Jessie]
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Wait, I thought the long hose went through the inner splash panel & clamped onto that outer panel?
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#454637 - 05/07/08 09:04 AM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: tony barnhill]
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Yep. See that all. Tony knows even if it is a Midget. Heheh.
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#454638 - 05/07/08 09:05 AM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: jlaird]
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hehehe...but I need some of those wiring harness clamps in the photo - the ones along the top edge of the grille opening.
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#454708 - 05/07/08 11:11 AM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: tony barnhill]
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Right Tony, but I think he is missing the part the end of the hose slides over.
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#454748 - 05/07/08 12:22 PM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: Trevor Jessie]
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UH-OH...if he is, so am I!
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#454761 - 05/07/08 12:39 PM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: tony barnhill]
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So, we have a guy from SoCal and another from Bama discussing installing their heater boxes - can I clarify, just how sympathetic should the rest of us be? wink
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#454774 - 05/07/08 12:54 PM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: JPSmit]
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Sorry guys, my bad.

There is no part there on the later cars.
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#454817 - 05/07/08 02:19 PM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: JPSmit]
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Jedi Hopeful

Registered: 04/17/08
Posts: 189
Loc: SoCal
Originally Posted By: JPSmit
So, we have a guy from SoCal and another from Bama discussing installing their heater boxes - can I clarify, just how sympathetic should the rest of us be? wink


But if I am not kept at a perfect 68-72f, I will freeze or wilt. The temp must be puuuuurfect, and it must be perfect noooooooow. </whine>

I figure I will just secure the VB-sourced plastic "repro" hose with zip ties through those three holes.
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#454820 - 05/07/08 02:22 PM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: Trevor Jessie]
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Jedi Hopeful

Registered: 04/17/08
Posts: 189
Loc: SoCal
Originally Posted By: Trevor Jessie
Sorry guys, my bad.

There is no part there on the later cars.


I saw on a 77 in the junk yard the remnants of the inlet hose. It was plastic, and had a molded end in the form of a sort of scoop and it appeared to be ribbed in a way that suggested that it should be pushed through the grill apron so that it was retained by the ribs. Perhaps this is how it was in 1969?
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#454823 - 05/07/08 02:23 PM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: tony barnhill]
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Jedi Hopeful

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Posts: 189
Loc: SoCal
Originally Posted By: tony barnhill
hehehe...but I need some of those wiring harness clamps in the photo - the ones along the top edge of the grille opening.


I'll keep an eye out for them on my next trip to the boneyard.
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#454834 - 05/07/08 02:52 PM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: JPSmit]
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How can you be missing that Tony, did it not come out?
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#454878 - 05/07/08 04:21 PM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: jlaird]
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Jack, I have no idea where I put them...but now that I've seen the photo in this thread, bet I'll find some....how many go across there?
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#454958 - 05/07/08 07:51 PM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: tony barnhill]
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Jedi Hopeful

Registered: 04/17/08
Posts: 189
Loc: SoCal
Mine has 5, but I don't know if that's the proper amount.
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#455205 - 05/08/08 10:13 AM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: 58Custom]
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No clue Tony, Guess I would go with 58Custom what ever his name is.

Are they on your old wireing still?
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AN5L 24515, Eng. 9C-U-H 16218, Apr. 1959
"Miss Agatha" On the road again and smiling.

We were there, Lake of the Ozarks, 2008!!


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#455223 - 05/08/08 10:27 AM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: jlaird]
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No, I took them off & laid somewhere
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#455282 - 05/08/08 01:21 PM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: jlaird]
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Jedi Hopeful

Registered: 04/17/08
Posts: 189
Loc: SoCal
Originally Posted By: jlaird
No clue Tony, Guess I would go with 58Custom what ever his name is.


I added my name to my sig. The handles, 58custom and Tom Custom, are used on many different forums and they help me reference posts. I'm into a lot of stuff.

My '58: http://www.geocities.com/styleline58/

My Cleveland engine forum: http://www.351cleveland.net

My veggie VW diesel (sold): http://www.freewebs.com/vegtruck/

Short attention span since 1963.
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#455443 - 05/08/08 09:53 PM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: 58Custom]
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Loc: Ontario
cool Ford!
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#455545 - 05/09/08 09:11 AM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: JPSmit]
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Well, I'm out to my MG Graveyard to find the clips!
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#455549 - 05/09/08 09:22 AM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: tony barnhill]
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Hi Tom, glad to have you with us.
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AN5L 24515, Eng. 9C-U-H 16218, Apr. 1959
"Miss Agatha" On the road again and smiling.

We were there, Lake of the Ozarks, 2008!!


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#457606 - 05/14/08 10:32 PM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: 58Custom]
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Originally Posted By: 58Custom
Here is a pix of the area.




Tom...could you take a photo of the other side of the grille opening so I can see the entire thing?
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#457614 - 05/14/08 11:00 PM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: tony barnhill]
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Jedi Hopeful

Registered: 04/17/08
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Loc: SoCal
OK. I'll get one tomorrow. I just got my heater motor today and put it all together. I just shoved the replacement hose through the inner apron and it is held in place nicely by tension.

So now I know that my fan switch is broke. Figures.
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#457699 - 05/15/08 08:50 AM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: 58Custom]
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Fan switch won't be broke, just needs cleaning up and green stuff removed from it. Likely brushes in the fan motor need renewed as well. My fan almost never works when sitting still but a little movement from driving and it kicks right in.
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#457701 - 05/15/08 08:55 AM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: Jim_Gruber]
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Jedi Hopeful

Registered: 04/17/08
Posts: 189
Loc: SoCal
Originally Posted By: Jim_Gruber
Fan switch won't be broke, just needs cleaning up and green stuff removed from it. Likely brushes in the fan motor need renewed as well. My fan almost never works when sitting still but a little movement from driving and it kicks right in.


I tested th fan before the install and it works well. Ebay find. My problem now is removing the switch. I read the factory manual on how to use a screwdriver to remove the switch portion from the bezel, but now I have to go under and try it out. Kinda cramped under there.
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#457743 - 05/15/08 10:32 AM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: 58Custom]
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Originally Posted By: 58custom
OK. I'll get one tomorrow.


Thanks. I finally found 3 of those wiring clips that I took off my car...want to see how many you have on the other side & their location.

Tom - does your car have an oil cooler?
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#457987 - 05/15/08 08:26 PM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: tony barnhill]
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Loc: SoCal
Originally Posted By: tony barnhill
Originally Posted By: 58custom
OK. I'll get one tomorrow.


Thanks. I finally found 3 of those wiring clips that I took off my car...want to see how many you have on the other side & their location.

Tom - does your car have an oil cooler?


No oil cooler.

I just reassembled the heater and reinstalled the grill yesterday afternoon, and the day before I installed a VB-sourced relay harness (with bright yellow sleeving, yuk) for the headlights. But, the number and locations of the harness clips holding the headlight and parking light wires remains unchanged. Two clips to the right of center and three to the left.

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#457991 - 05/15/08 08:29 PM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: 58Custom]
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That's a good photo...I have the 2 for the right side & 1 of the 3 for the left side...gotta find 2 more for the left side...but at least I can start installing what I have to close up the harness.

Also need to get a "this vehicle wired positive earth" decal!
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#460698 - 05/24/08 04:12 PM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: tony barnhill]
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Bumped because I need the photos as I install my wiring behind the grill.
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#460718 - 05/24/08 05:50 PM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: tony barnhill]
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Jedi Hopeful

Registered: 04/17/08
Posts: 189
Loc: SoCal
Originally Posted By: tony barnhill
Bumped because I need the photos as I install my wiring behind the grill.


Mouse over pix, right click, save as and it's your forever. Can I provide other pix?

I just put the carbs back on and took it for a spin. I opened the heater vents and turned on the blower. Bunch of leaves and pine needles blew out all over my kid's shoes. Well, it works! laugh
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#460720 - 05/24/08 05:54 PM Re: 1969 Heater air inlet behind grill- pix? [Re: 58Custom]
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Nope, thanks! Got it all done...
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