1963 bj7 rear interior trim

maxwedge5281 · Mar 19, 2014

still working on the above car. previous owner had installed new non factory carpet. and, in the process removed the rear seat pans and covered over the area with a piece of properly folded sheet metal. they did a nice job but i have removed this metal, ordered new seat pans and a new factory type carpet set. my vinyl trim is good but they also removed the small vinyl covered bulkhead behind the seats. the factory top folds down behind this area. does any of our suppliers offer just the vinyl covered piece without purchasing the entire vinyl interior pieces? also does anyone have a good detail picture of this item. maybe i could buy the vinyl and fabricate a proper piece? any help is appreciated.

HealeyRick · Mar 19, 2014

It's not a bulkhead, but a fold down seat squab. The squab is upholstered in a pleated pattern.

I don't know of any place that sells the squab base. IIRC the squab consists of a piece of plywood with foam attached to the front. John Skinner sells an upholstery kit for the rear squab and seat pans: https://austin-healey-trim.co.uk/au...-armrests/rear-seat-kit-leatherfaced-3000-bj7

maxwedge5281 · Mar 19, 2014

rick, is the squab hinged to fold down over the two rear seats. most likely could be easily fabbed if i had any idea of what the squab looks like beneath the covering material.

HealeyRick · Mar 19, 2014

I'm not sure if it folds completely flat over the seats or not. The one in my car was missing and I've never replaced it. I found a source for the squab (back panel) here: https://www.ahead4healeys.co.uk/UPHOLSTERY--UP--ct193.aspx Scroll down to the bottom of the page for the BJ7 listing.

bob hughes · Mar 20, 2014

I can not be certain, but I think that the squab folds forward a bit to get the soft top into the space, but does not fold all the way down. I fitted a pair of hinges that I altered to suit and mine almost folds down but is probably incorrect.

B.T.W. do you have a photo of the rear internal quarter panels and how they fit at the squab holding bracket, I think that the bracket is fixed over the quarter panels but I can not be certain.

:cheers:

Bob

Bob

maxwedge5281 · Mar 20, 2014

bob, no i do not have any idea of how the piece is fitted not how it works. i just ordered the end pieces from moss and hope to be able to determine how the upholstered piece might fit...i think that i can fabricate and buy the upholstery for that piece. if you have a pic available, it would be greatly appreciated.

BG 62AH · Mar 20, 2014

Possibly these pictures may help. My car is a BJ7, but it seems that a previous owner used some BJ8 interior pcs on it. The condition of my interior was very poor when I got the car. The brackets pictured hold the cushion up for the rear seat back support. The cushion is on hinges, it folds partially forward for raising/lowering the soft top. It does not seem to fold all the way down like a BJ8.

Hope they help.

bob hughes · Mar 20, 2014

maxwedge5281 said:
bob, no i do not have any idea of how the piece is fitted not how it works. i just ordered the end pieces from moss and hope to be able to determine how the upholstered piece might fit...i think that i can fabricate and buy the upholstery for that piece. if you have a pic available, it would be greatly appreciated.

Max
Not clear on what you require, photos of the rear quarter panel? how the squab bracket fixes on the inner rear wing? my home made hinges for the squab? or all three

:cheers:

Bob

bob hughes · Mar 20, 2014

The first three shots are of a BJ8 rear quarter panel showing the weather strip termination front and rear of door.

The next two are of the rear of my BJ7 showing a modified hinge and the bracket at the back of the squab.

In reality I think that the hinge fixing at the back of the squab should be inside the covering, but I am not sure, I made the hinge to be of set so it fixes on the underside of the squab as well.

Looks as if the rest of the attachments did not come out. :wall:

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maxwedge5281 · Mar 20, 2014

bob, if possible all three. i dont have any of the parts to go by. i did order some hardware today. thank you very much....

British_Recovery · Mar 20, 2014

Hi,
The BJ7 rear squab panel is held in place with two footman's loops (same as chrome loop for the spare tire strap in 4 seaters) fitting into rubber anchors (same as bonnet rod and boot lid rod retainers) on the steel vertical supports. There is one loop on each vertical edge of the rear of the squab, and it's just a push-in fit, with no hinges. There's a good illustration on the AH Spares parts list.
Good luck, Bob

bob hughes · Mar 20, 2014

Here are the rest, details of the quarter panel and the bracket behind the squab.

https://www.britishcarforum.com/bcf...98153498159815mentid=32361&stc=1&d=1395349815

I think that the rear of the quarter panel is sandwiched between the bracket holding the rubber clip and the inner wing, can any one please confirm this.

:cheers:

Bob

maxwedge5281 · Mar 20, 2014

thank you very much for all the pics and info>>>>

bob hughes · Mar 21, 2014

Good news all

I have been able to confirm from two separate Healey specialists that the rear quarter panel trim on the BJ7 does get fitted behind the holding bracket at the rear of the squab.
Remove the seat belt fixing and the bracket from the inner wing, fit the quarter panel and all seat belt and bracket fixings pass through it.

Further more, I enquired about the seat belt fixing as mine is a single point fixing ( the early cars had a two point fixing to help avoid a clash with the squab) - no problems but there may be a possibility of a clash with the squab. As the squab does not fold flat anyway, this will not be a problem to me.

:cheers:

Bob

maxwedge5281 · Mar 21, 2014

bob, sorry to continue to ask, but what point/points are you listing regarding the safety belts. my bj7 belts have a threaded female on the tunnel and an eyelet through the driver floor at the door opening. are these the correct points for the safety belts on a bj7? thanks again for your help!

bob hughes · Mar 23, 2014

No problem Max

The female thread on the tunnel is fine.

The bracket bolted to the floor near the door is fine - the detail should have a spacer on the top of the floor and a reinforcing piece on the underside of the floor, there should be a pin passing through the bracket picking up the hole in the seat belt fixing and unless you have the quick release variety, there should be a split pin fitted to prevent the main pin from falling out. I have used a K or R clip as it is easier to remove than the split pin.

I was referring to the third fixing position. On your photos of the internal rear wings ( fenders) you can just see what look to be two stumps projecting from a rectangular blister, they should be studs and they pass through the quarter panel trim and the belt fixing has two holes at this point. There should be two domed headed huts to hold the seat belt fixing.

:cheers:

Bob

HealeyRick · Mar 23, 2014

Bob Hughes said:
The bracket bolted to the floor near the door is fine - the detail should have a spacer on the top of the floor and a reinforcing piece on the underside of the floor, there should be a pin passing through the bracket picking up the hole in the seat belt fixing and unless you have the quick release variety, there should be a split pin fitted to prevent the main pin from falling out. I have used a K or R clip as it is easier to remove than the split pin. Bob

What Bob is describing here is the BMC seat belt bracket that attaches to the floor next to the inner sill. Maxwedge has said that he has an eyelet bolt that was used as a fixing point for the outer belt, which will also work if reinforcing washers are used. The BMC bracket is available here https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-h...Seats-Safety-Harnesses/BRACKET-seat-belt.aspx If you go to John Sims's excellent Healey6 site here: https://www.healey6.com/technical.htm and scroll down to the "Safety" section you will find a link to a pdf entitled "Seat Belt Installation." This is a BMC sheet that will provide the locating measurements for the seat belt brackets.

The fixing points for the shoulder belts are as Bob described. If you decide to purchase shoulder belts, make sure they have the correct fitting that will attach to the two studs Bob referenced.

maxwedge5281 · Mar 24, 2014

thanks very much for all the insight and help. does the healey use a three point system for the safety belts? i have located three points in my car...tunnel female mounting, sill area with a reenforced mounting plate, and the two male threaded studs on the quarter panels... thanks again!

bob hughes · Mar 24, 2014

Max

Yes there are three fixing points and I think that you have them all, when you refer to the sill area, I am assuming that you are referring to the floor next to the sill and at the big end of the tear drop shape depression in the floor panel.

:cheers:

Bob

maxwedge5281 · Mar 24, 2014

yes i believe that i have the three points. i suppose that there are proper healey belts available for the three point mounting. is this customary or do most owners use just lap belts?

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