TR2/3/3A Maintenance on Drive Shaft

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Redoakboo

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• Mar 10, 2019

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I am in the late stages of restoring the chassis on my 1954 TR-2. I have removed the driveshaft and the "U" joints seems to be in good condition, well lubricated. Question: The grease fitting on the front of the shaft obviously lubricate the inner splines. Should there be any back and forth motion of this front section of the shaft?

Thanks, Dick

 

TR3driver

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• Mar 10, 2019

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I'm not quite sure what you are asking, so apologies if I got it wrong.

The splined joint does need to move fore/aft a very small amount, as the rear axle moves up and down on the suspension and the engine deflects a bit on it's mounts. But it's not very much. There is also a cork seal inside, that can make it a bit stiff to move with your hands.

 

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• Mar 10, 2019

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I noticed that you can unscrew the outside ribbed collar and it looks like it would change the length of the driveshaft?

 

TR3driver

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Only if the yoke is up against the collar, which it shouldn't be in operation. The collar is to retain that seal I mentioned.

Don't forget, these cars were cobbled together from pieces of other non-sports cars. Things don't always make "sense" in terms of having been designed for this specific application.

 

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Redoakboo

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• Mar 10, 2019

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Mine shaft collar will move from No Threads showing to about 1/4" of threads showing; I left it there.

 

TR3driver

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Why would you want to leave the dust cap loose?

 

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Redoakboo

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Dust Cap? Where is the dust cap?

 

Merlin63Tr4

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• Mar 10, 2019

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See item number 8.

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Redoakboo

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• Mar 10, 2019

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Oh!!! What I was calling the spiral collar! Should it be screwed tight, with no threads showing?

 

Merlin63Tr4

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• Mar 10, 2019

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Yes, that's the plan.
Screwed tight.

M.

 

TomMull

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• Mar 11, 2019

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And as Randall noted above, allow for fore and aft movement of the spines even when screwed tight.
Tom

 

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Redoakboo

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• Mar 11, 2019

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Tom,

After the collar is screwed tight, and all are lubricated, how do you know whether you have allowed fore and aft movement?

Dick

 

TomMull

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• Mar 11, 2019

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It's built into the design. The collar, aka dust cap, should simply hold the seal in place inboard of the splines and the yoke should not bottom out and the seal should not contact the splines. If you've got the correct shaft and yoke, simply put it together. You can usually feel a little play and sometimes need to compress or stretch the unit a bit to get it to fit, but pretty easy to do.
The reason for the play is that the length of the driveshaft changes, albeit very slightly, as the rear axle bounces up and down and or twists with torque (and also with wear on the engine and trans. mounts).
Tom

 

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Redoakboo

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• Mar 11, 2019

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What you are saying is I should be able to pull it apart; somewhat?

Dick

 

TomMull

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The yoke should slide on the splines on the driveshaft. It is actually called a slip joint; #6 and #7 in post 8 above. Hope we are talking about the same thing. The collar (8 dust cap) will compress the seal (9) and may make it a bit tight but it does need to move.
Tom

 

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Redoakboo

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• Mar 11, 2019

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Yes,

When together and lubricated, I can move it back and forth 3-4".

Thanks for all the help, guys

 

PeterK

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• Mar 12, 2019

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If you pull the shaft apart at the splines for cleaning, note the arrows etched into the metal for alignment as you mate the two pieces back together. ==> <==

 

martx-5

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• Mar 12, 2019

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PeterK said:

If you pull the shaft apart at the splines for cleaning, note the arrows etched into the metal for alignment as you mate the two pieces back together. ==> <==

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Very important. You want the yokes to be in proper phase. If you look closely at the orientation of the yokes in Merlin pic above (post #8), you can see how they are lined up.

 

CJD

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• Mar 13, 2019

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Redoakboo said:

Yes,

When together and lubricated, I can move it back and forth 3-4".

Thanks for all the help, guys

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It WILL move with the force of the car bouncing down the road. So no worry there. If you have doubt as to how free the slip joint is...take it apart and clean the dried out grease until it slips easily. A dry joint can creak as you hit bumps.