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Sherlock
11-14-2004, 05:15 AM
A couple of pictures that have shown in Flickr lately, I haven't decided 100% what they are...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/36198368@N00/1337407/

Definitely an old import, very possibly British, I'm leaning towards a Rover P4 myself... Picture was taken in Washington State.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/firemind/1363409/

Can't quite figure this one out... doesn't look like any of the big three American, maybe an oddball import or British car? Picture was taken in Victoria, B.C. where lots of unusual British cars reside.

Mickey Richaud
11-14-2004, 08:46 AM
Don't know about the first one. The second one is an Olds 88 - looks like a 2 door, maybe a hardtop rather than a sedan, from the looks of it. The year is around '54 or '55.

Mickey

Bugeye58
11-14-2004, 11:16 AM
James, the first one looks almost like a 1951 Plymouth Business Coupe. The roof line doesn't look high enough to be a P4, and didn't they have the divided rear window?
Jeff

Cottontop
11-14-2004, 12:30 PM
The Olds is definately a 1954 Super 88, 2-door.

Here's another one.

http://uvscnet.com/home/RODEHU/54_olds.htm

Bugeye58
11-14-2004, 01:07 PM
And some more pictures of a '54 Super 88 two door hardtop.

http://www.dealsonwheels.com/search/detailbig.cfm/Autos__ID/000614-200410-000015

Jeff

Basil
11-14-2004, 01:45 PM
No idea on the first, but will echo Mickey on the second - definitely an Olds 88 (the Olds 88 logo kinda gives it away /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif )

sammyb
11-14-2004, 03:22 PM
The "Rocket 88" definitely gives away the Olds. It's like showing a galloping mustang, a prancing horse or crossed corvette flags.

Now, for the first one, it's hard to tell because it's so small. It's small and funny looking like a Renault Dauphine or a Goggomobil, but the taillights aren't right...and this is an "other British car," I'm guessing from the forum selection.

I'll have to noodle on the first one to try to place it.

Sherlock
11-14-2004, 05:13 PM
Well...

I never claimed to be an expert on identifying American cars anyway...

That first one is kind of hard to tell, maybe it is a Plymouth, maybe it isn't... I guess I thought it looked too small to be American, but then in the picture itself it is the smallest object so could be bigger than I think it is.

Mickey Richaud
11-14-2004, 06:57 PM
OK, not to be picky, but how can you tell the difference between a '55 Olds and a '54. They look the same to me, but I'm sure there's a difference. Just to check, I looked at a couple on ebay, and didn't see any difference from the rear. Anyone?

Mickey

Steve
11-14-2004, 08:50 PM
Picture number one is definitely an early Rover P4, very possibly the "Cyclops" varient with a headlight in the centre of the grille.

Sherlock
11-14-2004, 11:08 PM
I knew I wasn't crazy... That was the first thought in my head when I first saw that picture a few days ago

Where does one find a picture of the back end of an early Rover P4? Had a heck of a time, did find this one...

http://www.roverclub.org/hayfld2.jpg

Almost seems to fit the bill

Steve
11-15-2004, 12:57 AM
The later cars had the three-part rear window. Good job finding that other rear shot, took some work!

90 XJ-S
11-15-2004, 01:12 AM
Mickey,

IIRC the tail light lenses on the 55 are "heavier" and have a more robust look. It's kinda subtle but pretty obvious once youve seen the difference.

Mike

Mickey Richaud
11-15-2004, 10:42 AM
Thanks, Mike. Usually when there was a body carried over, there were minor trim differences. I couldn't remember that one. Another one for the "useless information" file!

Mickey

Randi
11-15-2004, 06:04 PM
This is a 56 Olds Rocket 88 I think- Randi

Biffy
11-15-2004, 06:38 PM
The first one looks a like an Austin Cambridge to me. No idea about the second one though

Biffy
11-15-2004, 07:14 PM
Hmmm, no, looking at it again, the taillights aren't right. Could it be a Wolsley of some kind?

Sherlock
11-15-2004, 07:41 PM
Biffy...

If you take a peek not far back in the thread we seem to be 99% certain that the first car is a Rover P4 - probably an early "cyclops", but then feel free to disagree if you feel so led /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif

Steve
11-15-2004, 07:59 PM
Here's another shot of one

http://www.braveknight.com/dave/images/Rover50r.jpg

The Rover 75. I believe that the one with the divided rear screen was the Rover 90.

rovernut
11-16-2004, 01:33 AM
Yes it is the infamous Cyclops.........Rover 75 .....1949 -52....Where stylists determined to keep Rover's customary 3 front light system in place won out over the engineers and along with the decorative grille surrounding the central light, effectively blocked off most of the cooling air to the rad and was renounced after 3 years......That configuration was coincidently also on The Jet1 Rover car (their first turbine car).....The early model P4 had the smaller rear window and in 1955 the Rover 90 had the 3 part rear window ...........The early 75 models used basically my P3 engine design with lighter aluminum heads shaving 30lbs,chromium-plated cylinder bores(only Rover and Rolls Royce had these) and twin SU carbs instead of the single Solex

Biffy
11-16-2004, 11:57 AM
Oh, I didn't read all the posts that far back. Sorry - I wasn't trying to be a smarty-pants! I stand corrected!

Mickey Richaud
11-16-2004, 12:25 PM
Biffy -

That wouldn't be a Bengal Tiger as your avatar, would it? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Geaux, Tigers!

Mickey

Biffy
11-16-2004, 07:38 PM
Yes it is! I have never been to a game but I always like to see them win! I am afraid I am football-ly challenged!