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Xracer
07-27-2004, 07:03 PM
1. What was an HRG....and what did the letters stand for?

2. Sir Alec Issigonnis, the eccentric genius that designed the Mini, was a British citizen, but was born elsewhere. Where was he born?

3. Bentley won LeMans last year. Prior to WWII, they won a number of times. How many LeMans races did those wonderful old blower Bentleys win?

4. What did the "AC" in AC cars stand for?

5. What did the "4" in Morgan "+4" stand for.

No Google, please. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nonono.gif

Winner gets a copy of "British Owned Car Makers -- 2004"....all one page of it.

Don Lattimer
07-27-2004, 07:37 PM
In what British Car did Jackie Stewart win his first race?

Bugeye58
07-27-2004, 07:43 PM
That one is too easy. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Jeff

Steve
07-27-2004, 08:16 PM
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1. What was an HRG....and what did the letters stand for?

2. Sir Alec Issigonnis, the eccentric genius that designed the Mini, was a British citizen, but was born elsewhere. Where was he born?

3. Bentley won LeMans last year. Prior to WWII, they won a number of times. How many LeMans races did those wonderful old blower Bentleys win?

4. What did the "AC" in AC cars stand for?

5. What did the "4" in Morgan "+4" stand for.

No Google, please. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nonono.gif

Winner gets a copy of "British Owned Car Makers -- 2004"....all one page of it.

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1. Halford, Robbins and Godfrey, the founders of the company.

2. He was Greek by birth.

3. Trick question I think.......the blowers never won LeMans, they were all naturally aspirated. Am I right?

4. AC is short for Autocarriers Ltd. ?

5. +4 stands for the number of seats.

How'd I do, huh? Huh?

Oh, and Bentleys had won LeMans five times prior to last year.

aeronca65t
07-27-2004, 09:35 PM
Great questions! I know I have a picture of an HRG here somewhere....
Since Jeff has left it open, I'll jump in: Marcos.

Here's a Bentley LeMans "spare car". It never competed, so I'm not sure if any blown ones actually won.
It was one of two Blower Bentleys at the New Hampshire Vintage event last year. The same family owned both! Nice "front bumper".
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v170/aeronca65t/Cars/blowerbently_nh.jpg

Steve
07-28-2004, 01:31 AM
Okay, I have one. In fact, they have been posted before but most will not have seen it.

In which British cars did the following famous people die. Make and model please:-

1. Princess Grace of Monaco

2. Marc Bolan (T-Rex)

3. Mike Hailwood

4. Mike Hawthorn

Xracer
07-28-2004, 10:55 AM
Steve....right on 1,3, and 4. Wrong on 2 and 5.

On your #4...."Mustard Mike" Hawthorne died in a Jag XK-150 on a rainy road.

I remember Grace Kelly (Princess Grace of Monaco) driving a Sunbeam Alpine in Alfred Hitchcock's "To Catch A Thief" (with Cary Grant)....but not the car she drove at the time of her death.

80spitlizzy
07-28-2004, 12:15 PM
I'm fairly sure T-Rex died in a purple Mini 1275. Can't help with the others.

William
07-28-2004, 12:53 PM
Marc Bolan died in a Mini. Hawthorn died in a Jaguar Mk.2 (a 3.4 litre model, but I could be wrong, also possibly fitted with a hand throttle). Mike The Bike was driving a Ford Cortina, I believe. And I didn't know princess Grace drove after she became a princess. Didn't know driving was actually allowed, just the purchase of cars.

Who was Hawthorn racing when he crashed?

What was Prince Charles' first car?

What car was Paul McCartney driving when he died?
(semi trick question, but what was he allegedly in?)

And what decidedly non-English person arranged all the stunt driving in that decidedly British film The Italian Job? (the proper one with Michael Caine)

-William

aeronca65t
07-28-2004, 01:18 PM
And what decidedly non-English person arranged all the stunt driving in that decidedly British film The Italian Job? (the proper one with Michael Caine)

Ooh, Ooh! I know! [raising hand]

Remy Julienne' (I *did* have to check the spelling)

I think, technically, a walrus stood in for McCartney at his "demise".

Bugeye58
07-28-2004, 01:38 PM
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Who was Hawthorn racing when he crashed?

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Rob Walker, and yes, Princess Grace was driving on the day of her accident. She actually died the following day.

Jeff

PC
07-28-2004, 02:22 PM
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Who was Hawthorn racing when he crashed?

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Rob Walker...

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Bonus question: what was Walker driving?

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Steve
07-28-2004, 02:25 PM
Yes, Mike Hawthorn was racing against Rob Walker on (I believe) the Guildford by-pass in Surrey. Hawthorn was driving a dark blue Jaguar Mk1 (not a MkII). That car was indeed fitted with a hand throttle. I think that Walker was driving a Ferrari? Marc Bolan was indeed killed in a Mini Clubman when he hit a tree, but it was yellow in colour. Princess Grace was driving a P6 Rover 3500, and Mike (The Bike) Hailwood was in fact driving an SD1 Rover 3500 on his way home with his daughter after buying fish and chips for the family supper, when an articulated truck did a U-turn across the road in front of him.

Bugeye58
07-28-2004, 02:31 PM
Rob Walker was in a 300SL.
Jeff

Steve
07-28-2004, 02:49 PM
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Rob Walker was in a 300SL.
Jeff

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Yes you are right.....I knew that it was something tasty, but could not for the life of me remember what.....good call!!

78Z
07-28-2004, 04:21 PM
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2. Sir Alec Issigonnis, the eccentric genius that designed the Mini, was a British citizen, but was born elsewhere. Where was he born?
5. What did the "4" in Morgan "+4" stand for.


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its was Cyprus was it not?

and 4 was the number of cylinders I believe

William
07-28-2004, 05:15 PM
That's Right, aeronca! According to the rumours, Paul McCartney died while driving his Aston Martin, having stormed out of the studio after an argument. Naturally, that Aston Martin still exists.....

Having said that, it seems that the ones I tried to answer I pretty much got wrong across the board!

-William

Steve
07-29-2004, 12:47 AM
Classic Cars magazine did a test on that Aston Martin a year or so ago. I was going to answer that one as well, but I forgot!

Xracer
08-02-2004, 12:52 PM
78Z....its was Cyprus was it not? And 4 was the number of cylinders I believe.

Nope and nope......Sir Alec was born in Turkey, and the 4 in Morgan +4 was the number of wheels! Previous Morgans were all three wheelers.

Simon TR4a
08-18-2004, 11:17 AM
I think the Plus4 is 4 inches wider than the earlier Morgan, but then I also thought Issigonis was Greek by birth.
On the later questions, Princess Grace was in a Rover 3500, a car well regarded for the dual diagonal braking system which was an important safety innovation.
The first car I remember Prince Charles driving was an MGC, though he is more famous for owning an Aston Martin. Astons with specs similar to his are referred to as "Prince of Wales spec". Incidentally Prince Phillip is also of Greek descent, as his name would imply, and was also a car enthusiast, liked Alvis I think.
Congratulations to Steve, esp. on the Herg answer!
Simon.

Steve
08-18-2004, 12:23 PM
Princess Anne drove Reliant Scimitars.......doesn't she still have one of those?

78Z
08-18-2004, 12:55 PM
I don't know if she owns one but you have still have one made if enough money flows as part supplier Graham Walker owns the rights and tooling.

Prince Philip owned a Ogle Prototype Scimitar. Prince Andrew had a GTC (convertible).

racing girl
08-18-2004, 01:50 PM
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Princess Anne drove Reliant Scimitars..

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Hey 78Z, If someone cuts you up when you're driving it just yell "Naff orf" at them!! DO I need to explain that one???

RG /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/england.gif

Steve
08-18-2004, 02:02 PM
Maybe you do, RG...don't know if that snippet ever made it over here. I remember it well, and I don't blame her in the slightest. Her father would have relayed the same message but with slightly stronger language! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/england.gif

78Z
08-18-2004, 02:23 PM
I'm going to need an explaination ...

Steve
08-18-2004, 02:38 PM
A member (or members) of the press corps.......that bastion of society.......was being rather too pushy and intrusive on one occasion, so Princess Anne told him to "naff off" in those words exactly, and it made headlines......in the UK at least. RG you are showing your age, that had to be about thirty years or so ago now (ducks and runs for cover) /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Trevor Triumph
08-19-2004, 02:03 AM
That HRG reminds me... Was ther a British formula car called a BRM? I found a word search puzzle in a British magazine a few years ago. It has eighteen cars listed but so far I can find only sixteen. The trouble is there is no listing of the cars used so in a way you don't know quite what you're looking for. To complicate even more, Someimes the company name is used "Morris" other times only the model Gazelle.

sunbeammadd
08-19-2004, 07:36 AM
BRM (British Racing Motors) was indeed a racing car constructor - they were around from the 50s through to the 70s.

I think someone tried to revive the name on a supercar in relatively recent times, but it obviously didn't take off.

PC
08-19-2004, 12:58 PM
I had an old English racing mechanic friend who said it stood for "Britain's Ruddy Mistake."

BRM had rather a colorful history with drivers like Jackie Stewart and Graham Hill. Hill won the '62 F1 World Championship for BRM. BRM also supplied engines to other teams. Jimmy Clark won the '66 US Grand Prix in a BRM powered Lotus 43.

BRM could never be accused of "thinking inside the box." The motor that powered Clark's Lotus was an H16. 3 litres, 2 cranks, 8 cams and 64 valves! A real screamer when it didn't fly apart.


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Super 7
08-21-2004, 02:32 PM
BRM tuned Lotus twincams too.

William
08-21-2004, 06:09 PM
BRM didn't have much success until they simplified their cars in the mid fifties, and didn't get really good until the sixties, when the combination of reasonably modern technology and Graham Hill started winning races. Until then, they were rather like BAR or Jaguar is today-lots of funding, few results.

-William

Xracer
08-22-2004, 11:50 AM
The first BRM was a 1500cc supercharged V16 that produced 550 bhp at 10,500 rpm......an astounding figure in the early 1950's.

At that time, the Grand Prix formula was for either 1.5 litres blown or 4.5 liters unblown.

Trevor Triumph
08-23-2004, 01:32 AM
Wow! 1500cc's and a V16? The cyliders must have been really small! T.T.

sunbeammadd
08-23-2004, 02:36 AM
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BRM tuned Lotus twincams too.

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They also did the Hillman Avenger BRM rally homologation special. It wasn't terribly successful though.

Then just a few years ago there was the Rover 200 BRM which largely went unloved.

William
08-23-2004, 02:26 PM
Trevor-the pistons for the BRM V-16 look like cappucino cups.